They're making a new Marathon, but it's a Escape from Tarkov style PvP only game
Just bash my brains out right now, I don't need this
I really wish games didn't really SO HEAVILY on name recognition. I'm sure Bungie could have just called it some 1990's sounding shit like "GRIM_CYPHER: Invaders of New Eden" and dropped that trailer and it would have done numbers. I really don't like how every medium of media is 94% remakes/remasters/reboots these days. I know new IPs are scary to publishers and the moneybags at studios but fuckin' hell I hate how most everything has four different titles with the original. I hate how you still have to say "Doom (2016)" for example.
I really don’t like how every medium of media is 94% remakes/remasters/reboots these days.
It creeps me out how often modern games directly use the old game's name, as if to erase the old game in favor of its greedier microtransaction heavy replacement.
BRO FOR REAL! Honestly I'd respect them/be less annoyed by if they just slapped a number on the side or a needless adjective like "new"; hell, I'd even be okay with a stupid article like "the" to the title. For the sake of basic conversation and continuity stop naming things the same thing.
It's really confusing and is just plainly a heartless cash-in on the previous goodwill a work has generated. The other thing is I doubt any of the younger katz they want to buy the game even know what Marathon is, I'm sure they just going to use a bandwagon effect from the older katz that pick it up and stream it to get the kiddos on board. They really could have just called it "Marathon: [some cool subtitle]" and they would have been fine. I don't think it's a totally heartless marketing move but if I can think it up as layperson I'm sure some moneybag's goon did.
Hell, they made such a big deal about the fact that you play as a Runner
Could have fucking called it Runners
Good point. By the way is Marathon worth picking up? I recently heard that open-source version of the games is online .
Yeah, I actually played the hell out of them fairly recently and they still play really well
More polished than Doom, better story too
Well right on! I'll give it a good. Thanks for the recommendation! :only-good-gamer: :solidarity: :only-good-gamer:
Durandal is one of the AIs of all time.
Fun fact; Durandal, Curtana, and Joyeuse are three swords associated with Charlemagne. Durandal was the sword of Roland. Iirc it was destroyed during his rear guard action that saved the Frankish army from being destroyed by Andalusian forces. Curtana is supposedly stuck 50 feet up in a wall, and what is allegedly Joyeuse (and the original blade is from the right time period) is in a museum in France somewhere, having previously been used to coronate French kings.
At least the original Marathon games had the dignity to not literally have guys named "Runners"(to my recollection.)
You play as an actual "Marathon Runner"? Come on.
Yeah Marathon in the og game was a reference to the Security Officer being wildly outnumbered all the time.
It's not even a reboot, it's a regraft, taking the skin off of one thing and putting it on another
Such a weird move to revive Marathon, lol. Yeah, I'm sure there's lots of value to squeeze out of a brand that's been dead for, what, 30 years?
Also, did they not learn that this never works?
Remember when Microsoft did that PvP Shadowrun game?
Or when they did that weird PvP spin-off of Legacy of Kain?
Damn, I remember being hyped for that Shadowrun game too lol. Weirdly I remember the beta being better than the full game because it was more balanced. EDIT: At least we got Dragonfall eventually.
I played the demo for a long time. Rented the full game less than a year after release and it was dead at.
It was fun though, but much like blink (I think that’s what it was called) these types of shooter never seem to do well unless it’s TF2. Even quake wars was dead on console.
I assume you were thinking of Brink, the parkour shooter that was basically dead at launch, but the fun thing is that there could be another game called Blink with the same story. Console seems to only really have an audience for a couple big franchises (Gears of War/Halo/CoD/Battlefield), which I assume is due largely to the demographics of the playerbase - teens can only buy a few games. I want to say Shadowrun also allowed crossplay with PC players which was proooobably not a good idea.
That’s the one, the weight class based parkour was a really cool idea.
Yeah, I remember playing a single online match. A pc player joined on the other team within minutes I was the only non-bot on my team from everyone quitting.
Beating up bots offline was fun though.
god, i got burned on brink hard. I swear two friends and I were the only players in australia in the first week, i've never seen such a cool concept just eat shit within release day
RIP. I rented it the weekend after release and it was already pretty dead in the US. The worst thing about it is that the failure of Brink and games like it are why everything's now a GaaS with thirty currencies and microtransactions out the ass. That shit keeps people invested.
Also, did they not learn that this never works?
Remember when Microsoft did that PvP Shadowrun game?
I just brought that up before scrolling down. :yea:
With the popularity of Tarkov and CoD DMZ it seems likely that extraction shooters are going to be the next big thing for game companies looking to distinguish themselves in the vast sea of battle royale games.
A brand that is both dead and literally the only people interested in it now are either "boomer shooter" nerds or mega lore nerds, neither of which this satisfies.
they rebooted HAWKEN last week. it's in super early access, pve single player (the original was pvp matchmaking, and GOOD), and there is already a full cash store, buy new mechs not just skins
They’re making a new Marathon,
:sicko-wholesome:
but it’s a Escape from Tarkov style PvP only game
:sicko-no:
I haven't been this disappointed about a new game announcement since Microsoft announced a Shadowrun game (when the last Shadowrun games were from the 16 bit era) but threw out pretty much everything Shadowrun about it except maybe half of the aesthetic (or less) and made it a lazy team pvp shooter.
System Shock remake will be ready to pirate next Tuesday.
I don't know if that makes things better, but I hope it does.
Bungie has a deal with Sony and previously made the multiplayer garbage that is Destiny. They aren’t a single player company anymore.
I actually play Destiny, it's fun to get some buds together and fight space monsters
But I can't even fathom who thinks it's a great idea to try and run two live-service games at the same time
Well, I mean, I can, but it boggles the mind to think they can pull it off when Destiny fucking breaks everytime they do an update
I am sorry about Marathon. I’ve heard the lore was good and the gameplay ahead of its time. Hopefully this renews interest in a traditional follow up?
But that being said…
As a recovering Tarkov addict, a competent clone sounds like a godsend. I don’t care which IP they trample. They could make a Dune x Book of the new sun crossover and I’d swallow the nerd rage if it was a version of Tarkov that wasn’t dumbed down and actually worked.
Yeah "What if Tarkov but good" sounds pretty sweet, tbh.
I'm not sure if it's even possible to have that kind of game without it being a cheat and grief fest, but I'm kind of here for more attempts at it.
Tarkov is well designed imo, it just runs like shit and the devs weren’t the most experienced which led to a lot of tech debt.
As for the cheating, they could totally eliminate it if they wanted to, but it would cost money and eliminate a large revenue stream. There’s a reason they sell account 4 packs after ban waves.
I agree nothing to do about griefing, it’s kinda a core component (extract camping, knowing spots were people being valuable items for quests so they can be farmed, ect). And hardcore games just attract that in general.
Tarkov also doesn't tell you what it actually wants you to do, like there is literally no indication that standing around in a particular room in a warehouse will make you extract.
Hopefully this renews interest in a traditional follow up?
Quake Champions :rage-cry:
A new traditional quake would be awesome. With the Doom revival being so successful I’m optimistic.
I just hope they lean more into the creepy horror elements rather than porting over the new DOOM ultragore execution systems and whatnot.
But its such a proven recipe for a game right now that Idk if they would take the risk to strip back the movement and stuff like that.
It would be a cool chance to show off all the developments in lighting tech. Quake 4 was really good at using it for atmosphere.
Oh boy I love inventory management in my shooterslop! What, it's battle royale and stomps on my childhood as well? Wahoo let's bust some unions and eat doritos
Genuinely just baffling, the only people who recognize this brand now are either video game history nerds, or people interested in the comically esoteric and obscured lore.
The only people who will be interested in this based on the Marathon name are people who know it as "The before Halo video games!"
Wait what! What? What the... what the fucking what? I thought it was weird that the only recognizable things in the teaser were one terminal and half a second of a pfhorr but what?
Okay, so
1.) Apparently the game takes place in 2850. Presumably this means that after Durandal returned to Sol at some point to share technology with the UESC government, someone built an FTL ship and returned to Tau Ceti to scavenge the ruins for some reason
2.) I'm guessing the ship inside the moon is the wreck of the UESC Marathon, since Marathon was originally built into Mar's moon Deimos.
3.) Idk what the fuck those weapons are, doesn't look like any Zeus class fusion pistol I've ever seen
4.) The only recognizable things from the OG Marathon are a half second of a Sph't Compiler and a Terminal.
Also, apparently it's going to have seasonal storytelling and an expanding map
I want to meet the man at Bungie who thinks that they can handle two games doing that at the same time
Destiny is barely holding together at the best of times, this is just gonna torpedo everything
