I've seen some good takes on this website before, e.g.
Tiananmen Square massacre is a myth; all we’re remembering are British lies
Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim
Workers World: China’s Tiananmen Square
Tiananmen Square ‘massacre’ was a myth
What really happened at Tiananmen?
West hypes false Tiananmen death toll
The original fake news: Tiananmen Square massacre
The defeat of counter-revolution in China
WikiLeaks - LATIN AMERICAN DIPLOMAT EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT OF JUNE 3-4 EVENTS ON TIANANMEN SQUARE (1989)
Richard Roth - There Was No "Tiananmen Square Massacre" (2009)
Yenica Cortes - Tiananmen Square and the threat of counterrevolution (2009)
Tiananmen - the massacre that wasn’t
No, 10,000 were not killed in China’s 1989 Tiananmen Crackdown (anti-Chinese source, but still!)
Deirdre Griswold - Tiananmen Square ‘massacre’ was a myth (2011)
The Chinese government violently crushed a popular movement that wanted civil rights and a free press.
In much the same way that the Maidan in Ukraine wanted those things.
However, those desires are merely a wedge that could be used to establish Imperial control.
Ukraine would be much better off if Maidan had been suppressed, far less people would have suffered and died.
Were the students tied to foreign influence?
A leader of the movement immediately fled China as the protest started, stating that the point of the protest was to incite fatalities to inflame global attention. Doesn't sound like a very non-ngo affiliated person to me. Love 2 deliberately get my supporters killed while i flee in the name of civil rights
name of this person?
Chai Ling, here's a link to a comment by @SnAgCu@hexbear.net https://hexbear.net/comment/3715945, detailing a bit about the situation. And lemme get her quote here:
One would be Chai Ling
Even her NATOpedia page has this transcript from an interview with her:
She was smuggled out along with various other protest leaders and dissidents through Operation Yellowbird, a CIA-MI6 joint venture. Again, even the NATOpedia page has to grudgingly admit the CIA had been providing training, funding, even typewriters and fax machines to these people - who it must be kept in mind were a small fraction of the protesters. Though the page does manage to avoid mentioning the NED, which had opened its offices in China for the first time in 1988,
Edit: Found it, posted in another comment
Thanks
Sure, we can have this struggle session if you want to also go start the same struggle session for every single time any powerful country has done similar. Guess I'll see you post this every single day then? Looking forward to how you critique every country who did something like this equally and fairly.
This reads like anti-tankie satire.
Your whole thread reads like debatebro CIA propaganda
Just like how the USSR collapsed because people wanted civil rights and free press and OOOPS, manmade horrors beyond comprehension!
Lenin
This is basic stuff