https://twitter.com/ricwe123/status/1659592008166522880

  • serveranim [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Who said they ever wanted to win?

    It wasn't winnable but it was certainly continuable. The Taliban were never going to forcibly evict the Americans. They had been in that situation for two decades, what's another five?

    Whoever forced the the Americans to withdraw was in DC, not anywhere in Afghanistan.

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The taliban were never going to forcibly evict the Americans

      Yes they were.

      They had been in that situation for two decades

      The situation changed continuously over two decades with varying levels of US troops and Taliban fighters, the latter had grown considerably in the last couple years, and the only way for America to maintain a presence on the ground in the face of that would have been to commit significantly more troops of their own once again. You're Joe Biden and you're faced with leaving Afghanistan and thus being the president that finally ends the unpopular forever war and brings the troops home, or doubling down and sending more Americans to Afghanistan. You're going to be running for reelection in a couple years, what do you do?

      • serveranim [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Yes they were.

        First I've ever heard of it, and I've followed it on and off since the invasion.

        You’re going to be running for reelection in a couple years, what do you do?

        I would have let Trump take the blame, since he was so adamant about ending wars by forcing America (DC) to lose them.

        • RedDawn [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Trump admin is the one that reached the agreement with the Taliban for withdrawal. When he did so there were 13,000 US troops there and by the time Biden took office there were like 2,500. Biden admin has indeed pointed the finger at his predecessor for the sloppy withdrawal. So essentially, you would have done exactly what Biden did in this situation. So what's the mystery?

          • serveranim [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            This novel idea that the Taliban were about to evict the US from the country. Wasn't going to happen without a plan out of DC.

            • RedDawn [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              OK I guess the 13,000 US troops were going to hold out for 50 years against 200,000 Taliban or something

                • OrionsMask [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  Typical cracker yankee hubris and rhetoric. Of course our "high tech" white troops can hold out forever against the "illiterate" brown hordes, it doesn't matter that they're outnumbered nearly 20:1! One of our boys is worth easily 30 of theirs!

                  Death to America

                • RedDawn [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Why not? Because they couldn't. The options were get out entirely or commit a much larger number of troops.

                  • serveranim [none/use name]
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                    2 years ago

                    Uh-huh. I would have heard about that. I don't suppose you can supply some sources on this from the DC blob.