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  • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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    My main concern is that it's quite likely that a lot of dudes would just lie to a partner for condomless sex and then just "male abort" if a pregnancy comes up. Men already lie all the time to try to get their condoms off and they already abandon children at a much higher rate than women (the idea of men not winning custody when they try is mostly a myth, it's because men just don't try) so it seems quite likely that lie and male abort would become a serious issue.

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      • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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        Lying about wearing a condom is rape though, so that’s already illegal.

        No I mean that the BF would say "Don't worry, if we get pregnant I'll support you" and pretend to be all ready for a child and the prospective mother agrees thinking that they're aiming for a kid. And then all of a sudden the kid actually comes and the man fucks off (like they already do with children except even easier now) and the mother is left either as a single parent without any financial support (not agreed on) or aborting a kid they wanted.

        Unless you want people to be writing sex and baby contracts now.

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          • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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            The issue is that "well my BF left, time to abort" is not nearly as easy as you imply. If you were wanting a kid and you agreed on it with the idea of having the father in your life, it is going to be painful having to make the choice to abort it because you can't handle it as a single mother.

            Abortion is much easier on people who didn't want a kid anyway, it's still pretty emotionally tough on the people who do want children but just know they can't manage having one right now. An important choice for them to be able to make but it's not easy for everyone.

            We can't just force deadbeat dads to hang around, nor should we, but things like child support at least provide some aid to the kid and discourage that fuck and dump attitude.

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              • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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                In a country with a good social safety net I'd be a lot more inclined to support male abortion yeah. Without it? No way.

                I think we agree on a lot of the same ideas there otherwise.