Officials must stay ‘keenly aware’ of challenges and prepare for ‘most extreme scenarios’, President Xi Jinping tells National Security Commission

Comments show China harbours no ‘illusions’ about fallout of US rivalry and has little hope of a lasting improvement in ties, analysts say

The New Cold War is here, folks.

:deeper-sadness:

  • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    That would have been true years ago, but the rate of profit is still falling, and countries are decoupling from this abusive relationship, and now the trading partner looks mighty tasty...

    And you wanna know the worst part? Since the US has a trade deficit with China, they depend on China to get them items they don't manufacture themselves. If/when the US declares a war on China, the media will start running stories about how the evil CCP is at fault for preventing vital items from reaching the civil population by closing down shipping routes

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      The media can run whatever stories it wants. Americans have proven more than willing to make up their own crazy bullshit and to start eating their own as soon as things start looking grim.

      I'd be far less worried about China and more worried about your local communities of color.

    • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I don’t believe that for a second. What’s the desired outcome for the us? Subjugate a nation twice it’s own size that has a history of revolution in the peoples living memory? Use war to extract favorable trade terms? I don’t see it.

      • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The US is not in a foreign relations position as strong as they were some 30 years ago. And their foreign position also directly impacts their economic position.

        The neoliberal model of the "first world" has shown its limits and is rapidly declining. As the leading imperial power in the world, the US essentially entered a phase that there is no way out of: they have reached the highest stage of capitalism and cannot turn back on imperialism, not even if they wanted to. They don't want to, because the money is still amazing at the top, but for how long? Profits must not only be maintained to please the bourgeoisie (which the government only exists to placate), they must always be bigger. The US realises this situation will not last forever, they're seeing the writing on the wall.

        Most countries are moving towards China as a bigger trading partner than the US and the Belt and Road initiative is quickly rallying whole continents to China's side over the unpredictable, fatal USA.

        Even if the US wanted to offer the same deals China is offering to these countries (in regards to loans for example, or infrastructure project), they couldn't. We -- the imperial core -- couldn't. Our whole system is built on the exploitation of these places.

        Now, one thing the USA does (we know all of this and the above because it's been the M.O. for decades now) is to get the media to run hit pieces on countries they want to invade, but not necessarily act on it. Anti-China stories have been running in the media for several years now, and so have been anti-Iran stories. Yet the US has not attempted to invade Iran yet. I think they just like to keep these ideas in people's minds just in case they decide to sanction or send a drone. In other words, this means the war is not inevitable just because we've seen an uptick in anti-China stories in the media.

        The M.O. also usually includes attempts at color revolutions, helped by that same mainstream media who works as a mouthpiece for the CIA. They tried those in China (Xinjiang, Tibet and HK) but didn't succeed. So they're starting to realise war is the only solution out of this predicament imperialism finds itself into. Doesn't mean they'll win or that they even believe they'll win, but it's all they have left. That, or accept the death of capitalism, and thus the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, which they will never let happen as long as they can help it.

        The goal is not necessarily to subjugate the whole nation, but to come out in a better position to reconsolidate their imperialist policies abroad. Forcing the end of the belt and road initiative would be a huge blow already to multipolarity. Or forcing sanctions on China, for example limiting their international reach with some specific sanctions like taking them out of the IBAN system, or forcing them to trade in US dollars. Forcing elections in China and trying to get their candidate elected, like they did in Russia with Yeltsin.

        US warmongers are very good at kneecapping other countries to perpetually remain poor and subservient, that's one thing they have plenty of experience on.

        • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          That seems pretty fanciful. You can’t force a country to trade in dollars when you need it’s trade more than it does and all its other trade partners are moving away from you to begin with. There’s a set of circumstances that are required to force trade at the barrel of a gun and they’re gone or going for Brics and third world.

          That doesn’t even touch on the public outcry one fucking month into not getting stuff. The most propagandized people on the planet will yell to end the war with one voice, not because they hate senseless neoliberal violence, but because it’s making everything more expensive.

          The only thing even slightly close to a war I see happening in the next fifteen years is some kind of small scale dust up in the scs not to actually get the Kuril Islands or protect Taiwan or something but to shock the business class and politicians into pouring enough money into production and to adopt a set of policies that lean out the nations populace to prepare for actual for realsies war at that 3/4 score date.