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It's probably like in chess, how there's open tournaments for all genders, and women's tournaments to encourage more girls to participate.
I'll find an article I saved about women in chess if anyone cares enough, it's buried in my bookmarks somewhere. But the short is that competitive men suck and are toxic, and girls who get into chess quit because they don't wanna deal with it
From what I've seen of Chess GMs, they largely seem like really obnoxious people. Challenger rank players in League of Legends seem like more pleasant people on average than Chess GMs.
Devil's advocate: G*mers are fucking toxic and awful and if women want their own competitive space maybe that's ok? Edit: To be clear I have no idea if its women's choice to segregate the leagues like this. I only follow the FGC, and everyone plays together. There's been a lot more attention on this shit since things have gone more mainstream but it was hella bad back in the day with sexual harassment of women players.
so i do think maybe that's a point, but i'd counter by pointing out that most of that toxicity that they will be subjected to (beyond Le WoMeN beAt tHe mEN's team coomplaints that will inevitably arise) will come from the normal online matchmaking service that already is not doing any sort of gendered separation. gamers are fucking toxic, i'm just not sure that beyond having women's teams (which i think is great, i just don't see why they should be pushed into their own league) there's much that can be directly done to protect them.
Yeah...I'm honestly using devil's advocate in a very non internet debate bro way. I do kinda think everyone in esports should just play together but also I can see the benefits of a more positive space. I love playing fighting games competitively but man there are some toxic as fuck spaces.
for sure, so at the end of the day, women should have the interaction with the sport that they want and think is best. i can't say what would actually be that. i just object to the notion that there must be women's esport leagues for some reason because the normal justification for that given by athletic sports is a notion of roughly bimodal human sexual characteristics (which is laughable anyway, but y'know)
Because they're fucking idiots. Don't try to understand these people. Trust me, I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out what makes them tick. It's just reaction all the way down.
They want to encourage participation to make up the gap that was created by the scene being so unwelcoming to women. The gap is created by a history of lack of support for women in the genre and also because women are just not encouraged to be competitive so they don't tend to double down as hard as the men do when it comes to winning at all costs. This creates a gender gap, and once there's a gender gap you get an issue with women not seeing a purpose in participating at all because it's discouraging. So things like this exist to provide a way to play competitively without that discouragement and in an environment that's more welcoming.
why the fuck is there a women's only league in esports? it's fucking video games, just have different skill brackets in comp or something.
It's probably like in chess, how there's open tournaments for all genders, and women's tournaments to encourage more girls to participate.
I'll find an article I saved about women in chess if anyone cares enough, it's buried in my bookmarks somewhere. But the short is that competitive men suck and are toxic, and girls who get into chess quit because they don't wanna deal with it
it's genuinely insane how sexist chess can be. like you get actual GMs who are like "yeah, girl brains are just smaller, it's science."
From what I've seen of Chess GMs, they largely seem like really obnoxious people. Challenger rank players in League of Legends seem like more pleasant people on average than Chess GMs.
It's just chess! Maybe they need a night in Bangkok.
Devil's advocate: G*mers are fucking toxic and awful and if women want their own competitive space maybe that's ok? Edit: To be clear I have no idea if its women's choice to segregate the leagues like this. I only follow the FGC, and everyone plays together. There's been a lot more attention on this shit since things have gone more mainstream but it was hella bad back in the day with sexual harassment of women players.
so i do think maybe that's a point, but i'd counter by pointing out that most of that toxicity that they will be subjected to (beyond Le WoMeN beAt tHe mEN's team coomplaints that will inevitably arise) will come from the normal online matchmaking service that already is not doing any sort of gendered separation. gamers are fucking toxic, i'm just not sure that beyond having women's teams (which i think is great, i just don't see why they should be pushed into their own league) there's much that can be directly done to protect them.
Yeah...I'm honestly using devil's advocate in a very non internet debate bro way. I do kinda think everyone in esports should just play together but also I can see the benefits of a more positive space. I love playing fighting games competitively but man there are some toxic as fuck spaces.
for sure, so at the end of the day, women should have the interaction with the sport that they want and think is best. i can't say what would actually be that. i just object to the notion that there must be women's esport leagues for some reason because the normal justification for that given by athletic sports is a notion of roughly bimodal human sexual characteristics (which is laughable anyway, but y'know)
Because they're fucking idiots. Don't try to understand these people. Trust me, I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out what makes them tick. It's just reaction all the way down.
don't worry, i'm not trying to understand these people beyond figuring out how to hook them up with a :gui-trans: in their area.
They've done a lot of work earning it.
They want to encourage participation to make up the gap that was created by the scene being so unwelcoming to women. The gap is created by a history of lack of support for women in the genre and also because women are just not encouraged to be competitive so they don't tend to double down as hard as the men do when it comes to winning at all costs. This creates a gender gap, and once there's a gender gap you get an issue with women not seeing a purpose in participating at all because it's discouraging. So things like this exist to provide a way to play competitively without that discouragement and in an environment that's more welcoming.