• Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 months ago

    Moving goal post. One is dealing with a massive influx of migrants the other was used for "terriost".

    Do we need to redo our immigration process? Absolutely, speaking from experience. Can we allow uncontrolled numbers from coming into the us? No. Is biden doing the best thing for the southern border. I'm not sure, experts seems to say no.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      7 months ago

      Can we allow uncontrolled numbers from coming into the us? No.

      racist snake.

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        Only took 2 contentious replies for them to go from 'religious ban bad' to 'uncontrolled immigrants are a problem'.

        And they claim to be a succdem lmao, they're not even that, they're an embarrassed conservative. Even most liberals don't like this policy, it's why 'most experts' by their own admission are against it. r/politics buries most articles on it.

        This idiot is just an out and about racist.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      7 months ago

      So labeling the "massive influx of migrants" as a "national security risk" like Biden has done, doesn't count as a continuation and in fact enlargement of the previous "terriost" policy, why is one right the other wrong in your books? Is it because the team you don't like did one and the team you do like did the other?

      Can we allow uncontrolled numbers from coming into the us? No

      So you believe imaginary lines in the sand are sacrosanct, even if it means putting people in concentrations camps, dividing families and enlarging the power of the state to literally hunt people for glorified jaywalking?

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        Can we allow uncontrolled numbers from coming into the us? No

        I don't think he is even from the US he's on a .de site which makes this somehow funnier.

      • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
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        7 months ago

        I'm looking at tens of thousands of people crossing over without a proper support system setup. I'm looking at people that will be targeted and have higher rates of abuse. Not everything in the world is black and white.

        • Antisocial_Socialist [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          So then the answer is to set up that support system and punish those that would target vulnerable migrants right?

          Oh no? You just want to punish people fleeing from violence and impoverishment inflicted on them by our own foreign policy?

          Cool. Face the wall please.

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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          7 months ago

          So you believe denying those people asylum, putting them in concentration camps, separating them from their families, labeling them criminals and national security threats and sending them back to death and absolute poverty is actually the state helping them? Is that seriously your claim?

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        You don't understand, there's a wormhole that's producing 5.8e14 immigrants daily at the southern border. We don't know where they came from and it shows no signs of stopping. There is no way we can possible manage those many people.

        Ah wait, Blackrock actually has bought up those many vacant homes anyway, so we could handle it, but that would make line go down.

        • Owl [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Okay, I actually would be worried about immigration at 5.8e14 immigrants a day.

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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      7 months ago

      One is dealing with a massive influx of migrants

      when people say scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds they're talking about you, jackass

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      The post was about shutting down the border and deporting everyone, so...yeah I guess I 'moved the goal post' from where you already moved it to be ('muslim ban'), but Biden is quite literally doing that, and he drew inspiration from that ban.

      No. Is biden doing the best thing for the southern border. I'm not sure, experts seems to say no.

      Then why are you here vehemently defending him and his fucking awful policies? Do you think you're changing anyone's mind? Or are you trying to convince yourself?

    • triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      yes the US can and should allow in anyone who wants to be there. the US government has caused most of the problems causing people to flee their homes... and the country was founded by "uncontrolled numbers [..] coming in" in the first place.

    • Leon_Frotsky [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      Can we allow uncontrolled numbers from coming into the us? No.

      cryptofascist speech-l

      the "migrant crisis" is fascist propaganda that has exclusively been utilised to justify state brutality towards the most vulnerable section of society and to dehumanise anybody considered "not american enough" (immigrant or otherwise) in the US.

    • mayo_cider [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      The goal posts are buried in 500 hundred feet of concrete, right in front of human rights, but unfortunately biden drove a fleet of mlrs platforms in front of the goal and aimed them at aid workers and civilians

    • NewLeaf
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      7 months ago

      Go fuck yourself, lib