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  • Retrosound [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Here's how to know if a food is good or not: ask this simple question: is it served outside of its home area? If the answer is yes, it's good food. If you can only find it in a single city or region, it's probably edible but not excellent. If it's available worldwide, it's a home run. You can find Thai food just about everywhere these days. People like it.

    Ever seen a Filipino food restaurant? I haven't. Not saying they don't exist outside The Philippines, but I just haven't seen one. I've had home-cooked Filipino food though and...it's just not that great. I mean, it's edible. It gets you full, it accomplishes the goal of a meal. But I just wasn't impressed. The adobo was probably the best dish and that was just stewed beef. You know what probably the most famous Filipino restaurant is, both at home and abroad? Jollibee's. Which serves...American-style fast food.

    I felt the same way about Æthiop food. Served on the pancake, eat with your hands? It was edible but I wouldn't have it again.

    • stinky [any]
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      1 year ago

      Never had Filipino so can’t comment. But I’ll add that it’s also a matter of capitalism. American food became dominant because A) It’s tasty, and B) There was a lot of money to be made by selling it everywhere.

      The second point isn’t available to a lot of cultures who have incredible food but just aren’t considered “marketable”. This, by the way, is even true or really popular cuisines like Chinese and Indian, where if you go there and explore, you see so much more variety than you ever could in the US.

      But this is not true when it comes cuisine from the Bri’ish because they’ve had centuries to make their food popular and they couldn’t.

      Cuz it’s not good.

      • Retrosound [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Never had Filipino so can’t comment.

        I think the fact that you've never had it is a comment. 😛

        • stinky [any]
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          1 year ago

          I take it you’ve had all the cuisines in the world? Just read the rest of my comment.

          • Retrosound [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            I take it you’ve had all the cuisines in the world?

            That's a really uncharitable way to repeat my comment back to me. Even when you have it home-cooked, which is always the best way to experience a cuisine, it's just not that great. It's not a surprise that it hasn't caught on outside its home area.

            Even inside a country, you can use this rule. It's why you can find Texas-style BBQ in Carolina but not Carolina-style BBQ in Texas.

            • stinky [any]
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              1 year ago

              Sorry, I get combative when I comment.

              Now I understand what you were trying to say.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              It’s why you can find Texas-style BBQ in Carolina but not Carolina-style BBQ in Texas.

              I’ll be pointing this out and laughing next time I see someone try to claim Carolina style is “the only real BBQ”

              • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                This just isn't true. I'm not gonna come out and say "it's the only bbq", but I'm not from either Carolina nor the south in general and the vinegar/mustard based bbq sauce is the most common one here.

            • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Texas style? You mean that dry ass bbq without any sauce? Fucking trash man. Also tf you mean you can't find Carolina style? The mustardy bbq sauce is a available everywhere in the US and you invalidate every "point" you were trying to make.

              • Retrosound [none/use name]
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                1 year ago

                If your barbecue needs sauce, you're doing it wrong. It should be bursting with moisture and be able to be cut with a spoon. You will find sauce at a Texas BBQ restaurant, though it is placed on the table as an option should patrons desire. I would advise using a bit just to see what it's like, but you'll probably agree the barbecue is better without it.

                We were talking about restaurants, not finding a specialty sauce in the grocery store. There are Texas BBQ restaurants in China. How many Carolina BBQ restaurants are there outside of the Carolinas?

                • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  "Bbq cooked well is better" Yeah no shit if you cook the meat well it tastes better.

                  Carolina bbq cooked like shit is shit. Who would have thought.

                  Idrc if texan bbq is popular in China. There is a reason people always compare Texas, Memphis, and Carolina BBQ. Those are the 3 regional types that are very famous and regarded as good.

                  Also if you look at another comment of mine you'll see that I'm not from either Carolina or the south in general and "Carolina style" (vinegar/mustard based sauces) are the most popular types of BBQ here.

                  Texas is one of the largest must famous US states. Of course BBQ places in China will say that shit lol.

                  Texas is known for two things cowboy hats and hot air

                  Edit: sorry if this seems meandering poor thought our garbage. I'm day drinking with my siblings lol

                  • Retrosound [none/use name]
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                    1 year ago

                    if you cook the meat well it tastes better.

                    That's not what I said; I said if it's properly done you won't need a sauce. You won't miss it at all.

                    There is a reason people always compare Texas, Memphis, and Carolina BBQ.

                    OK, I'll bite: where can you find a Carolina BBQ joint in China? Or any other country? How many exist outside of the Carolinas or the South for that matter?

                    There was this amusing Youtube video a while back where they took some Korean people off the streets and gave them Texas BBQ for the first time. Koreans aren't exactly known for being culinarily adventurous. Usually they don't like anything that's not Korean. They were smacking their lips and saying, "10 out of 10! This shit is fucking great!"

                    • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      That's what you're saying: "If your barbecue needs sauce, you’re doing it wrong. It should be bursting with moisture and be able to be cut with a spoon"

                      What this is implying is that Carolina BBQ, which necessitates sauce as otherwise it wouldn't be Carolina, is cooked poorly. What I'm saying is that good bbq is moist and cuttable with a spoon regardless of where it's from. That has no bearing on whether it "needs sauce". Sauce is meant to enhance the food. Who cares if it "needs it" to taste good? Do good fries need dipping sauce? No. Are good fries made better with some kind of dipping sauce? Unquestionably so.

                      I'm not going to dox myself to give examples of where this style of sauce is popular. I guess you'll have to take my word for it that they exist and aren't near either Carolina.

                      Texas is the second largest US state with insane amounts of cultural capital. It's going to be famous by nature of that regardless of whether it's better than what it's compared to.

                      YouTube videos are edited nonsense. I don't think this strengthens your point.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      This dude's trying to deny the existence of American hegemony by coming for two of my favorite foods.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        McDonald's is good in a disgusting way, it ticks all the boxes of a reptile brain evolved to survive in an environment where food was scarce. You get your fats, your sugars, your proteins, your carbs. You walk out of the place feeling bad about yourself and the life choices that led you there but you also feel good in the way you'd imagine a python would feel after swallowing a whole rat.

        The burger itself is a good dish. It has an appalling mixture of flavours and textures and it's easy and convenient to cook and to eat. Being the national dish of the imperial hegemon and being marketed aggressively certainly helps it's popularity but it works very well as a meal.

      • Retrosound [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Yaknow, I'm not sure if I agree with that. The hearty burger and fries is good no matter who or where you are.

        Is McDonalds good food?

        Now now, McDonald's is crap all over the world. The only reason I'll ever eat it is because I'm stranded at a train station or something, or if I have 15 minutes to make it to an appointment. But there is more to the burger than McD's. You can name any other fast food burger and it's better than McD's. And of course there are actual hamburgers, which are a thousand times better. And then homemade, where you're in control of everything...I have knocked Chinese people's socks off with burgers on the grill. Nothing special either, no Kobe beef or anything, just the ordinary backyard burgers like we make in America. 80 grams each.

        :grillman: :grill:

          • Retrosound [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            I disagree, I think if it's good it will spread. If there's one thing people will go to a great deal of trouble for, it's good food.

            Japanese food is everywhere, Chinese food is everywhere, Indian food is everywhere. Belgian food isn't everywhere, Australian food isn't everywhere, Mexican food isn't everywhere. (I mean actual Mexican from the interior, not Tex-Mex - which does have an overseas presence). The only places you'll see these is in expatriate communities.

            • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              Australian food isn’t everywhere

              I don't think you even know what Australian food is

              There's also a surprising amount of mexican food here too (recently at least, before 2010 everything was tex mex)

      • stinky [any]
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        1 year ago

        It’s both. See here - https://hexbear.net/post/271950/comment/3521529