For years, so many libs and DEI arguments have rested their support for diversity on the single pillar of it being "fiscally smart." In the past at work, I've gotten into the problems with this position a few times, only to be ignored.
who was this written for? people who were surprised that sauron was the bad guy in LOTR?
The spat of corp America abandoning pride posts on this site the last few weeks would suggest for some users here.
That’s a really bad faith interpretation of those posts from lgbt minorities.
As if anyone on this site is that naive about capitalism . Rid yourself of the Reddit brain
No one is lamenting the fact that we're gonna lose out on the Lockheed Martin Pride float, or rainbow logos during pride month, but the reversal of corporate sentiment is a troubling reflection of the rising and increasingly radicalized anti-lgbt hatred in American society. Companies will generally only take stances when they believe the underlying sentiments behind them to be mainstream, with any discontent generated being marginal. So the fact that so many corporations are suddenly ignoring pride, after spending years espousing how much they supported it, is a sign that they no longer consider the human rights of LGBT people to be a settled topic.
I made a comment about this a few weeks back but you can just compare the difference in the corporate response to North Carolina's 2017 "Bathroom Billz" versus their silence to far worse recent anti-trans legislation recently made into laws in Red States, to see how far capital has abandoned their nominal support for trans rights. Moreover the fact that the right is now organizing attacks on companies whose actions resemble a pro-lgbt stance, see the destruction of target displays with rainbow merch and Budweiser having to express regret over sponsoring a single trans woman, is another sign of the growing power of bigots who wish for the extermination of deviants.
To give an analogy, the Bourgeois are an enemy in the fight for racial justice, but if corporate America suddenly started to refuse to celebrate MLK day, I'd be worried because of what that would say about the wider American society as a whole.
No one is lamenting the fact that we’re gonna lose out on the Lockheed Martin Pride float, or rainbow logos during pride month, but the reversal of corporate sentiment is a troubling reflection of the rising and increasingly radicalized anti-lgbt hatred in American society.
Good point.
In a vacuum, I couldn't give two shits if Wells Fargo or whatever doesn't have a rainbow-fied version of their logo as their Facebook profile pic this year. But it's the reason why they're not doing it that's the real issue. To see all these companies cave so easily to pressure from reactionary groups is worrying as hell, and it's only going to embolden these groups to go further.
That was a lot of reading and to be honest not to clear.
Your point is that you think that the country is turning more right or that the right is more organized. Which it is and will remain so till the left stops infighting and tearing each other down.
I've always seen the pride embracement by corp America only through capital lenses.
I don't think the country is turning more right. I think the right is very engaged and vocal. And that the left has hit a point of toxicity where the infighting is so fierce that people are starting to disengage in mass.
If you only perceive a minority issue through the lens of capitalism, you are missing out on a lot of context.
On some level , rainbows in stores helps LGBT people feel normal and safe. Losing that fucking sucks.
In just the past two years 17 states have signed some form of a ban on gender-affirming care into law. Rhetoric alleging queer people to be evil groomers are now espoused daily by politicians and media figures -harkening back to the days of the Briggs amendment- and some of the world's richest (ie: Musk) are bankrolling such propaganda.
Florida under Desantis is a worrying sign of how radical the anti-lgbt vanguard's agenda can be, with the state having recently enacted a transgender bathroom ban and a law that eliminates 80% of all transgender adult care, while introducing provisions potentially endangering the custody of trans youth with affirming parents. Hate groups like "Moms for Liberty" are now doing their best to make school as miserable as possible for queer kids in districts they control, doubtless uncaring for the suicides that will follow.
And while the judiciary has recently protected lgbt rights in certain circumstances, relying on them for protection is clearly a losing proposition' remembering that for a loong time overturning Roe seemed impossible.
Respectfully if you don't think LGBT people have reasons to worry about the direction much of America is heading in, and are right to believe that many things have gotten worse in recent years, I simply don't think you're paying much attention to issues affecting our community.
I'm paying attention. I'm just not surprised by any of it.
People are upset society is visibly turning away from lgbt issues.
Saying “they never really supported you” in response presumes that, somehow, the minority person didn’t already know that.
It’s very patronizing in an already stressful situation.
i think it's like a double whammy of:
- realizing once again that capital will co-opt progressive values only when it's profitable
- being confronted with the explosive rise of anti-LGBT+ rhetoric and sentiment in a new way
being critical of capital probably means most people have been aware of the first point, but there's this creeping discomfort as we move through an almost prideless 'pride' month, which I think is kind of new and weird. Heck, even the second point is probably clear to most people, but having the two interact like they have in the last two weeks is a new and different kind of grim, IMO
Capital... only as long as it's profitable.
(Trump I'm hearing this for the first time jpg)
:capitalist-woke: :capitalist-woke: :capitalist-woke:
I cannot believe that our enemies turned out to be our enemies all along! Curse this sudden but inevitable betrayal!
There's a lot of "we cannot be critical of the soulless companies who are literally throwing us to the wolves over a couple of pennies of profit right now" takes going around right now. This should be a wake up moment that assimilationism and collaboration were always dead ends and that a militant movement is needed, but i'm not seeing much of that.
Admittedly, all the "arm trans people" voices i'm familiar with were on the bird site so who knows.
1.) There were in fact posts holding that take here
2.) But in this case I was referring to the broader internet, where a lot of people are fretting about target betraying them and are blaming people who are critical of corporate pride and corporate rainbow-washing.
Is it "amplifying fascist rhetoric" to criticize democrats? I think everyone on this site would agree it isn't, and how is this situation any different?
