I say unusual in the sense of Japan seems to be the only one to have solved the issue of how do you transport 2 kids on a bike not with "big box" like the dutch and subsequently the entire western world but via 2 seats, they're apparently very popular over there as a means of transportation.
Who needs helmets when you can cushion your fall with your toddler?
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nobody in the image has a helmet
People don't really need helmets for most bikes that have an upright seating position and operated at a low speed.
If you're doing some more aggressive riding it's a good idea, but otherwise it's an unnecessary pain.
i will ride a bike without a helmet but I do not have two toddlers on that bike with me who are also not strapped into their chairs
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You should wear a helmet, but mandating then reduces the number of cyclists so much that you're probably causing more harm than good. Kind of whacky 🥴
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we're also not talking about a consenting adult on a bike but like an adult with TWO TODDLERS lol
not even strapped in! kid on the back could just like stand up because kids are stupid and do shit like that
I don't even have kids but just from being in proximity to people who do it's just like, wow lol this is unsafe
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Lol, okay dad of the year
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yeah i don't strap my children into their car seats because you know they grew up with it they'd know not to stand up, they're well practiced in just gripping the seat during an accident
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 what is this weird hexbear anti safety shit
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the odds of a child deciding hey I want to stand up like an idiot are higher than an accident, which are already high enough that the kid should be strapped in with a helmet anyway but go off Child Safety King :red-fist:
the utter naivete of believing a child literally like less than 8 years old just always being on perfect behavior and having a sense of self preservation, just lol
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blah blah blah kill some kids
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Bullshit, don't give dangerous advice. I was upright and going at a casual speed and got doored. Completely shattered my helmet, luckily I had one on.
why is that bad
brain trauma is... not good, so like, why risk it on a thing that can tip over or launch you off of it in an accident, especfially when you are also risking not just one but two toddlers (one of whom is also like not strapped into the seat, lmao)
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basic safety does not start at PPE
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yeah that must means it's a great idea then, otherwise why would we be doing it?
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Why do you think neither the Dutch nor Japanese wear cycling helmets much, bud? It's not big helmet, but it is a very convenient victim blaming excuse for dead cyclists.
Yeah but people don't just keel over on a bicycle for no reason. There's significant risk of brain injury if you just fall over when walking, are we expecting people to wear helmets walking now?
There's a reason people crash on bicycles by themselves and it comes down to shitty infrastructure, not personal ineptitude.
your average styrofoam bicycle helmet is tested for low speed self accidents, not collisions with cars. there's a reason motorcyclists dont wear them, it's not gonna do anything if you get hit by someone going 50kph in a 1,5 ton vehicle.
No, of course not. But the risks inherent for cycling for transportation are compareable to walking and the ones for cars are much higher due to higher speeds, but no one ever gets into their mind that a bit of styrofoam is gonna help there. It's a nonsensical argument to make. I wear a helmet, it's not like I'm opposed to them, but I do this because the infrastructure is shit, a problem which japan doesn't really have in that regard.
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You keep coming back to the fact that people already have straps and airbags in the car, but car accidents still cause lots and lots of head injuries to people. So they should wear helmets, right? You could mitigate that. If not, why not?
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I can say from personal experience that the cycling infrastructure in Japan is kinda shit, but of course it depends greatly on how far you're going and what area you're in.
Traumatic brain injuries are so cool! I can't remember how to move my legs but at least I won't get the nerd emoji commented at me by cool guys on the internet!!!!!
I'm really sorry that happened to you. I'm not the person who was arguing that helmets weren't necessary. I wrote the nerd emoji comment because I thought it was absurd that the debate was even happening and honestly believed that the anti-helmet person was just pulling the other person's leg, now I see that that wasn't the case at all.
should children or hell, anyone, wear helmets in cars? They have a horrendous track record of head injuries in case of accident. What about when just walking about. what if you fall
most people don't fall out of cars onto the pavement in a slight low speed collision
are you anti seat belt too or something lol what is this shit
Yeah, there's a difference between sitting inside a heavy metal box and balancing on two wheels connected by metal tubes, completely exposed
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Lmao, every car comes with specific instructions to make sure that your airbags don't obliterate your child in the event of a crash.
Boy cars travel much faster than that, why don't we expect everyone to wear helmets in those?
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The airbags are actively detrimental to most children to the point where you're advised to turn them off lest they seriously injure them in a crash. Every car manual since the 1980s has points about this in it. They don't work for children because they're not designed for children. Do you not understand this?
No, I always wear one.
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