I've rejected his quirky infographicy bazinga propaganda ever since his "if 99% of humanity was wiped out by an environmental crisis, that's still a net win for future humanity!" :galaxy-brain: take.
EDIT: Yes, it was an established poster, not a wrecker; I didn't name names because I didn't want to start that specific struggle up again.
Yes, I didn't like it and I feel vindicated about Kurzgesagt being lib propaganda with every additional video that Kurzgesagt comes out with. Being told "if you ignore X Y and Z Kurzgesagt actually has great takes about specific topics" :morshupls: was bullshit to me then and is bullshit to me now. Have grievances with me if you must about that. :ok:
The 'We will stop climate change' video is the one that was completely unforgivable to me. Absolutely uncloaked propaganda out on display.
Edit: Like, the eco-fascism I can believe that they actually believe that part. I can easily believe they get horny about depopulation. But the climate change video? There's no way those ~meticulous researchers~ actually believe that we can stop climate change with innovations like better light bulbs. That was just lying to be part of a chorus of complacency.
Translating from Ulysses talk: "I've seen people defending X even on Hexbear" usually means "there was a wrecker with a bad take two years ago and now I'm going to make it sound like it's a common thing."
Please no, I don’t want my comment to be responsible for starting a struggle sesh or rift
I hope it doesn't; I'm fine with any struggle session here being restricted to "not a grudge, just an observation :doubt: " grudgeposting because I brought up that sometimes there's bad takes on this site.
Either way I didn't intend to dunk, I just genuinely don't see the slop people mention here sometimes. I presume that's because our mods are doing an excellent job.
Sorry that people took my comment and jumped on it to dogpile.
It definitely wasn't majority opinion but the "actually Kurzgesagt's videos are okay if you pick out X Y and Z," while not as glaringly absurd back when it was said (there were more pop-sciencey videos that were less ideologically terrible than more recent videos), did rub me the wrong way.
Sorry that people took my comment and jumped on it to dogpile.
It's mostly one "just observations, just japing you bro, but THOU HAST SPITE ON THY TONGUE" :very-intelligent: not-a-grudge grudge holder here. The rest was fine.
It became pretty clear is was a façade once they started touching social issues, and their thesis was "everything is gonna better"
I'm just surprised people feel like they can characterize your posting. I don't remember shit specific users say unless it's either exceptionally based or atrociously bad.
I'm glad I rotate accounts every few months or so, even if it means I don't build rapport over time.
At this point, especially with the grudgeposting I already unintentionally invited into this thread, I'd rather not.
As I said it's not a call out as much as a "Kurtzgesagt (admittedly, back when there were more sciency videos and less directly ideological videos) sometimes receives excuses and justifications and it isn't confined to :reddit-logo: " warning.
Dunk me if you will, but in the case of Kurzgesagt defending, it was an established poster, definitely not a wrecker. I hope they changed their mind eventually.
I may have been a radlib at the time, but I don't think Kurzgesagt was pumping out propaganda from the outset. It was mostly shit about physics and black holes and cool nerd stuff. Feels like all of that was a Trojan horse for the propaganda in retrospect.
In the past I think there may have been some plausible defense for Kurzgesagt videos, even if I hated the cute quirky :reddit-logo: targeting presentation from the start and even recommended videos from well meaning progressives rubbed me the wrong way (the one about "keys to power" comes to mind).
The "99% of humans killed off is a victory for the 1%!" take from Kurzgesagt was so on the nose in favor of :capitalist-laugh: that from that point forward such defenses were inexcusable to me.
I know the exact CGPGrey video you’re talking about too 💀
My mistake, that was a CGPGrey video; I didn't like his videos either even if the presentation is less slick and big budget sus to me.
I have not seen this one, and I’m so glad I stopped watching holy shit
I believe it was the "what happens if there's a big calamity that threatens life on Earth" video. Yeah its conclusion was that it'd be great for the 1% that remains, because the implication was, presumably, that :porky-happy: can repopulate the magically livable planet after the worst was over.
The art style is cute in a more early 2000s kinda way, but it's absolute lib shit. Same vein as all of those alternate history anti-material garbage channels.
For bystanders, unless you're into hate watching, don't.
I believe it was the “what happens if there’s a big calamity that threatens life on Earth” video. Yeah its conclusion was that it’d be great for the 1% that remains
Was this a recent video? I feel like tons of media has been doing leg work to prep the masses for escalating conflict with China and downplaying the threat of nuclear war.
The art style is cute in a more early 2000s kinda way, but it’s absolute lib shit.
It was prejudice on my part for sure, especially when Kurzgesagt's earlier videos were about "I Fucking Love Science" topics which were more grating in presentation than outright offensive to me, but I always hated Kurzgesagt's :corporate-art: delivery style.
Was this a recent video? I feel like tons of media has been doing leg work to prep the masses for escalating conflict with China and downplaying the threat of nuclear war.
It was some months ago. It was a generic "what if a disaster threatens the entire planet?" video and I forgot its exact name. It was trying to include climate collapse as a bundle with more vague and fantastical disaster scenarios as if to diminish its imminence and relevance compared to the what-ifs.
I suppose it's a difference of taste; you're not wrong to have liked Kurtzgesagt's presentation style, but I always hated it because to me it felt condescending and twee levels of quirky.
There are Kurzgesagt apologists on my Hexbear? :lenin-rage: Kurzgesagt's neoliberal bias is so obvious (which they themselves describe as 'optimistic nihilism' lmao), I'd question any 'socialist' who defends that garbage. That video they did on how we'll fix climate change, was probably one of the most abhorrent pieces of false optimism I've ever seen.
It was in one specific Kurzgesagt related thread, even then it was a "sure this video sucks, but to be fair actually Kurzgesagt's videos are good if you ignore X Y and Z" the same way that some people on :reddit-logo: excuse Joe Rogan because he sometimes has non-chud guests.
I've seen his shit defended here before.
I've rejected his quirky infographicy bazinga propaganda ever since his "if 99% of humanity was wiped out by an environmental crisis, that's still a net win for future humanity!" :galaxy-brain: take.
EDIT: Yes, it was an established poster, not a wrecker; I didn't name names because I didn't want to start that specific struggle up again.
Yes, I didn't like it and I feel vindicated about Kurzgesagt being lib propaganda with every additional video that Kurzgesagt comes out with. Being told "if you ignore X Y and Z Kurzgesagt actually has great takes about specific topics" :morshupls: was bullshit to me then and is bullshit to me now. Have grievances with me if you must about that. :ok:
The 'We will stop climate change' video is the one that was completely unforgivable to me. Absolutely uncloaked propaganda out on display.
Edit: Like, the eco-fascism I can believe that they actually believe that part. I can easily believe they get horny about depopulation. But the climate change video? There's no way those ~meticulous researchers~ actually believe that we can stop climate change with innovations like better light bulbs. That was just lying to be part of a chorus of complacency.
I hear way more people talking about seeing bad opinions on hexbear than I see myself, are you sorting by modlog or something?
ulyseses has accumulated years of obscure grievances lol
Adding a "lol" to that doesn't make your own grievance any more subtle. :ok:
I got no beef with you sir just an observation
My observations must be grievances.
Your grievances must be observations. :morshupls:
You had spite in your tongue when you said “some users here said x”. I made a jape. I meant no spite and I apologize if you read it that way.
:doubt:
:ok: Yes surely I was grinding my teeth and my hair was falling out too. But no beef at all. Just observations from your crystal ball.
Sarcasm aside, that's concern trolling on your part where you wrote assumptions about me, telling me what you presume my mental state is. :blob-stop:
It was just a le funnay joek, and it's also just an observation and what I say must be worse than that. :morshupls:
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Yeah I'm going to stop reading right there and ask you to drop the implied ableism to that particular nugget of concern trolling.
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Pulling an implied "u r mentally ill" card, no matter how much you dislike something I posted, isn't a good look.
Stop fighting
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Stop that too! :deeper-sadness:
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i'm not driving i'm travelling!
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Extremely relatable tbh
Translating from Ulysses talk: "I've seen people defending X even on Hexbear" usually means "there was a wrecker with a bad take two years ago and now I'm going to make it sound like it's a common thing."
In the cause of Kurzgesagt, it was not a wrecker; it was someone with an established post history. I just didn't name names.
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Please no, I don't want my comment to be responsible for starting a struggle sesh or rift
Too late lmao.
I hope it doesn't; I'm fine with any struggle session here being restricted to "not a grudge, just an observation :doubt: " grudgeposting because I brought up that sometimes there's bad takes on this site.
It happens enough that I can just roll with it.
Either way I didn't intend to dunk, I just genuinely don't see the slop people mention here sometimes. I presume that's because our mods are doing an excellent job.
Sorry that people took my comment and jumped on it to dogpile.
It definitely wasn't majority opinion but the "actually Kurzgesagt's videos are okay if you pick out X Y and Z," while not as glaringly absurd back when it was said (there were more pop-sciencey videos that were less ideologically terrible than more recent videos), did rub me the wrong way.
It's mostly one "just observations, just japing you bro, but THOU HAST SPITE ON THY TONGUE" :very-intelligent: not-a-grudge grudge holder here. The rest was fine.
It became pretty clear is was a façade once they started touching social issues, and their thesis was "everything is gonna better"
I'm just surprised people feel like they can characterize your posting. I don't remember shit specific users say unless it's either exceptionally based or atrociously bad.
I'm glad I rotate accounts every few months or so, even if it means I don't build rapport over time.
At this point, especially with the grudgeposting I already unintentionally invited into this thread, I'd rather not.
As I said it's not a call out as much as a "Kurtzgesagt (admittedly, back when there were more sciency videos and less directly ideological videos) sometimes receives excuses and justifications and it isn't confined to :reddit-logo: " warning.
Dunk me if you will, but in the case of Kurzgesagt defending, it was an established poster, definitely not a wrecker. I hope they changed their mind eventually.
I may have been a radlib at the time, but I don't think Kurzgesagt was pumping out propaganda from the outset. It was mostly shit about physics and black holes and cool nerd stuff. Feels like all of that was a Trojan horse for the propaganda in retrospect.
In the past I think there may have been some plausible defense for Kurzgesagt videos, even if I hated the cute quirky :reddit-logo: targeting presentation from the start and even recommended videos from well meaning progressives rubbed me the wrong way (the one about "keys to power" comes to mind).
The "99% of humans killed off is a victory for the 1%!" take from Kurzgesagt was so on the nose in favor of :capitalist-laugh: that from that point forward such defenses were inexcusable to me.
I know the exact CGPGrey video you're talking about too 💀
I have not seen this one, and I'm so glad I stopped watching holy shit
My mistake, that was a CGPGrey video; I didn't like his videos either even if the presentation is less slick and big budget sus to me.
I believe it was the "what happens if there's a big calamity that threatens life on Earth" video. Yeah its conclusion was that it'd be great for the 1% that remains, because the implication was, presumably, that :porky-happy: can repopulate the magically livable planet after the worst was over.
The art style is cute in a more early 2000s kinda way, but it's absolute lib shit. Same vein as all of those alternate history anti-material garbage channels.
For bystanders, unless you're into hate watching, don't.
Was this a recent video? I feel like tons of media has been doing leg work to prep the masses for escalating conflict with China and downplaying the threat of nuclear war.
It was prejudice on my part for sure, especially when Kurzgesagt's earlier videos were about "I Fucking Love Science" topics which were more grating in presentation than outright offensive to me, but I always hated Kurzgesagt's :corporate-art: delivery style.
It was some months ago. It was a generic "what if a disaster threatens the entire planet?" video and I forgot its exact name. It was trying to include climate collapse as a bundle with more vague and fantastical disaster scenarios as if to diminish its imminence and relevance compared to the what-ifs.
I liked the art style because it was quirky, and very well made.
My lib propaganda sensors were faulty at the time, but it's obvious now why the production quality was so high.
Shame that a name drop of climate change is enough to get libs to buy into right-wing narratives.
I suppose it's a difference of taste; you're not wrong to have liked Kurtzgesagt's presentation style, but I always hated it because to me it felt condescending and twee levels of quirky.
And if they haven't, you know where to find me, comrade. :chavez-guns:
There are Kurzgesagt apologists on my Hexbear? :lenin-rage: Kurzgesagt's neoliberal bias is so obvious (which they themselves describe as 'optimistic nihilism' lmao), I'd question any 'socialist' who defends that garbage. That video they did on how we'll fix climate change, was probably one of the most abhorrent pieces of false optimism I've ever seen.
Literally never seen this as a daily user from the start
It was in one specific Kurzgesagt related thread, even then it was a "sure this video sucks, but to be fair actually Kurzgesagt's videos are good if you ignore X Y and Z" the same way that some people on :reddit-logo: excuse Joe Rogan because he sometimes has non-chud guests.
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