Italy has already elected a far right government that endorses fascist rallies

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/01/10/italy-s-government-under-fire-from-opposition-after-fascist-rally-in-rome_6420540_4.html

AfD is making record gains in Germany

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germanys-far-right-makes-strong-gains-eu-vote-despite-scandals-2024-06-09/

National Rally are poised to win elections in France

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-69102843

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    The eurosceptic party nonetheless won a record 16.2% of the vote ... Just a week before the election, a policeman was stabbed and killed at an anti-Islam rally by an Afghan man who was not living legally in Germany, an incident which shocked Germany and could have boosted the showing for the anti-migration AfD.

    what is this bullshit journalism? AfD's been polling 16-22% for the past year and they're trying to pin it on something a random immigrant did last week?

    • TheWurstman
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      3 months ago

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    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I love the spelling “eurosceptic” because I always intuitively pronounce is as “Europe septic”

  • Comp4 [she/her]
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    6 months ago

    16% AfD is more than concerning, but I have already made peace with the fact that they are going to make it past 20% on the national level at some point. CDU/CSU + AfD as a junior partner in a coalition is a possibility. I'm not saying it's 100% going to happen, but I consider it at least possible.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      European left shat the bed by aligning with warmongering libs. This left the right as the only parties to have a consistent anti-war position from the start. Now the right is massively capitalizing on the public opinion souring on the war.

      • Greenleaf [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Hexbears have been predicting this as the eventual outcome for 2 years now.

      • grandepequeno [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        More of a german/french phenomenon than broadly european (though maybe france and germany are the only countries that really matter honestly), in most EU countries the further right wing parties are also pro-war, and here in portugal where the communist party has been consistently anti-war, moreso than dem soc Left Block, including opposing arms shipments to ukraine even, we just get consistently attacked and mischaracterized in the media and I can't say we've made electoral gains from taking a principled anti-nato position, maybe we will in the long run but not yet, it has definitely cost us votes.

        Public opinion on the war hasn't soured that much here (fucking portuguese provincialism wanting to be "close to europe"), and even where it has a lot of people are still unwilling to go along with us when we call for something like a political solution.

      • peppersky [he/him, any]
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        5 months ago

        The european left has shat the bed decades ago when they turned from social democrats to neoliberal ghouls. Nobody actually cares about the Ukraine.

    • mar_k [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      AfD polls (blue line) have been decreasing the past 6 months, no real of way of knowing how it goes going forward

      Show

    • plinky [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      considering spinelessness of spd, cdu will go with spd/greens nationally (locally cdu/afd likely will happen tho)

  • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    none of this matters

    India, Pakistan or China alone, nevermind altogether, have enough nukes to end all of Europe, and all three are reeling from climate change (also caused by Europe)

    the way things are going the tech will be shared even further with other 3rd world nations, providing a totally indefensible platter of strike sources (current peak of US tech can't even shoot down nukes with a 50% success rate from a known location, and decoys aren't even used in simulations)

    the world will live in the north either peacefully or through massacring 95% of their population first with a bit of much needed nuclear-winter-induced global cooling on the side

    • Comp4 [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      While I agree that it doesn't impact most of the world, would you at least spare some sympathy for minorities living in the imperial core, which I am one of? I'm not looking forward to battling the Freikorps in the streets.

      • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        lol I'm one of them

        just find others and practice your paintballin' skills innawoods together. who tf cares about sympathy

        • Comp4 [she/her]
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          6 months ago

          Ah I guess it really is socialism or barbarism this time. Good luck to everyone who resists.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      I agree that globally this likely won't have much of an impact. Europe is a tiny percentage of the world population, and BRICS is already a bigger economy than the G7. I think this will mostly be a tragedy for people of Europe.

      • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        because Europe has enough nukes to end all of those countries as well.

        those countries are ending anyway so not an argument

        Economic warfare and traditional warfare

        the economics of half your continent turning into an oven

        the leaders basically all know this and that's why they've tacitly agreed to let a bunch of 3rd world people in. And why Modi and Xi are content to let 10 guys brawl it out in Ladakh instead of doing anything real

          • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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            5 months ago

            Still, what leader is willing to publicly kill 95% of their population in a day so a small, random minority can live in the North.

            Basically any leader elected by hundreds of millions of angry 3rd world people, lol (hot weather also makes people even angrier, scientifically confirmed)

            This type of war is a lose-lose situation for all parties

            It is not. They were going to lose anyway

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    how bad to have to fuck the dog to have worse political prospects than the usa

  • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    Yeah but they're against the ukraine war so they can't be fascist (or so i read in a different thread).

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Sadly, Russia isn't substantially different at this point. But at least they're not openly embracing fascism, so that's something I guess.

      • CTHlurker [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        I wish we lived in the world that Libs seem to think we live in, where Russia is secretly funding every group that opposes current-flavor-neoliberalism. That way, we might accidentally get a shot at a better world, but instead we just get fascism or fascism-lite

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
          hexagon
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          5 months ago

          It's funny how these people love to externalize their problems. They're unable to do any self reflection because that would force them to grapple with the fact that it's their policies that created this situation, so it has to be nefarious external actors like Russia and China subverting their beautiful democracy. The jungle invading the perfect garden they built.

  • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Now that we’re out of the tragedy phase and into the farce phase, I am hoping there is a bald, charismatic Russian who will lead a communist revolution in his country and fight back against Europe

  • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    Arm up, arm up, arm up. I know it's the origin continent of caucasity, and in such cases, in some countries, you might not be able to get your hands on guns, but get your hands on somethin'. If you ain't got a weapon, pick up a rock idk

  • peppersky [he/him, any]
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    5 months ago

    oh no not openly being facist, it's so much better to be secretly and successfully facist like the us. at least european facists had the decency to lose