• UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I think it's meaningless to demand one specific "cause" to an intersectional and complex series of material dialectics leading to the present moment. There are multiple causes, countless ones really. And boomers have benefited more from the same ongoing system (by and large because of the post WW2 economic benefits and the less-severe internal contradictions of the time) whether or not you insist that if they are innocent of "cause" then they must be categorically no better off than the generations getting pinched harder than they were at the same age.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      no there were clearly several causes but you do seem to be angry at them and I do not believe it is just to be angry at someone for things beyond their control. It's false consciousness to blame the elderly who were less mistreated by the capitalists rather than the capitalists choosing to intensify the mistreatment.

      Rather than boomers as a group deciding to force Amazon workers to have timed bathroom breaks it is specifically Jeff Bezos and the Amazon board of directors

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        but you do seem to be angry at them

        I would like you to put away your metaphorical crystal ball and stop telling me how I feel, thank you.

        I could just as easily quote you up there, and from posts before:

        it is pretty ridiculous to categorise wealth by generation

        I am actually begging you

        And assume you are quite angry at me for even bringing up that far too many boomers lord their relative comforts and material advantages over younger people and pretend that the situation they faced is the same as those that came after them.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'm not angry I am just concerned about the common false consciousness that harms organising that it is in fact boomers and not capitalists to blame which your arguments are at the very least adjacent to

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I'm not angry

            Neither was I, but I do dislike being told how I feel by someone because I happen to disagree with them.

            common false consciousness that harms organising that it is in fact boomers and not capitalists to blame which your arguments are at the very least adjacent to

            Dismissing or even insulting people for feeling trampled under capitalism with "actually" statements and telling them their anger is invalid is poisonous to agitation and organization efforts. I could say I am concerned about that in turn.

            Let people be upset when assholes, including boomer assholes, tell them that they deserve to be poor and to suffer. The anger is legitimate if it is directed toward people posting trash like in the OP's link.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I said you seem angry I apologise if I misinterpreted your tone

              You are angry at the wrong people and that is poisonous to solidarity it is legitimate anger at those people specifically but it is also important to recognise that those people are just a bunch of random assholes who cannot meaningfully be said to speak on behalf of anyone else

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I said you seem angry I apologise if I misinterpreted your tone

                You are angry

                what-the-hell

                just a bunch of random assholes

                They are not entirely random. They are prior beneficiaries of capitalism that are in higher economic rungs, and because they had better opportunities when they were younger than those that came after them when reaching the same age, they are now useful tools to capitalists to dunk on the rest of us, and anger toward that is legitimate.

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  telling them their anger is invalid

                  I from here assumed you were referng to yourself as a part of them and thus did consider your feelings to be anger

                  I am tired and after this comment will disengage

                  someday those wealthy boomers will die leaving their wealth to their children thus making millenials the wealthiest generation and you and I won't be a penny richer for it