If you want to see a Trump supporter go ballistic, just hit them with a reality check and watch them explode. Such as the poor MAGA disciple below, who worked himself up into a high-pitched frenzy …
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Personally I feel like this is actually kind of legit. This dude was given a chance to defend his argument and he refused or couldn't do it. I like to think he could not do it because he's a moron. And people need to see this, they need to see that members of the public who support trump are doing so carte blanche without grounding in any kind of reality. Was this particular guy over the top? Yes but he happened to be available for an interview.
I personally don't agree with that. Shapiro lies in his interactions with people he interviews. This guy just appears to be asking for some proof to back up the maga claim. But I guess the guy's over the top, belligerent response just shows that the maga tactic can be effective in pushing a "both sides" perspective even though there are differences. Again jmo ..
I'm not deeply familiar with Shapiro or anything (I don't hate myself like that) but what I've seen of him mostly does not have him lie in terms of statistics he repeats but use extremely faulty inference to come to false conclusions from that correct information. Anyway, my point isn't that they are identical but that the formula of live debate is already ineffective at changing minds or coming to "the truth of the matter," and it goes from silly to overtly masturbatory when you deliberately pick some troglodyte on the street to "debate" you when you are prepared and they are not, you have media training and they do not, and you know you can just not use the footage if you do poorly but they know they will end up being used in the footage if they do poorly.
Maga guy is a moron but productions like this only serve to jerk off Dem partisans so they will be self-satisfied enough to not question why ghouls like Biden aren't actually making things better.
Not really? I mean, bullshitting probably, but usually people don't consider faulty inference to be lying (they consider false premises to be lies) and Shapiro is honestly stupid enough that he could very well believe his incorrect extrapolations a fair portion of the time. In classic debate club fashion, I think he's entirely unconcerned with the truth of the matter and just stringing together things that he believes will come off to the audience as correct.
Yeah the reason I disagree with you here is that if we're able to look past the register he uses, he's ultimately pissed about inflation, and that's actually a very reasonable thing for someone to be pissed at his government for.
He's also pissed that when he talks about his concerns, instead of being like yeah dog actually I totally understand how you can be under threat by inflation this apologist is like "ACKTUALLY it's not Biden's fault" like that kind of shitlib behaviour is also a very reasonable thing to be angry about.
So is he right about every fact? No, but he's a regular person caught off-guard with a video camera in his face he didn't review his notes before the interaction, I'd probably have ended up saying something I couldn't back up with a source too if I was in that situation. That's not super meaningful.
But instead of thinking about any of this we're just supposed to point and laugh at the ignorant republican, it just feels like a cheap and lazy way to feel satisfied that you're not on his side without having to engage with a human being.
I really don't think this guy in the clip cares about any of the issues you're giving him credit for. The litmus test of course is, where were these people when trump was experiencing economy problems? Were they screaming in reporters faces about trump's performance issues?
Personally I feel like this is actually kind of legit. This dude was given a chance to defend his argument and he refused or couldn't do it. I like to think he could not do it because he's a moron. And people need to see this, they need to see that members of the public who support trump are doing so carte blanche without grounding in any kind of reality. Was this particular guy over the top? Yes but he happened to be available for an interview.
It's just pseudo intellectual spectacle of nearly the same ilk as Shapiro
I personally don't agree with that. Shapiro lies in his interactions with people he interviews. This guy just appears to be asking for some proof to back up the maga claim. But I guess the guy's over the top, belligerent response just shows that the maga tactic can be effective in pushing a "both sides" perspective even though there are differences. Again jmo ..
I'm not deeply familiar with Shapiro or anything (I don't hate myself like that) but what I've seen of him mostly does not have him lie in terms of statistics he repeats but use extremely faulty inference to come to false conclusions from that correct information. Anyway, my point isn't that they are identical but that the formula of live debate is already ineffective at changing minds or coming to "the truth of the matter," and it goes from silly to overtly masturbatory when you deliberately pick some troglodyte on the street to "debate" you when you are prepared and they are not, you have media training and they do not, and you know you can just not use the footage if you do poorly but they know they will end up being used in the footage if they do poorly.
Maga guy is a moron but productions like this only serve to jerk off Dem partisans so they will be self-satisfied enough to not question why ghouls like Biden aren't actually making things better.
That's a euphemism for lying, btw
Not really? I mean, bullshitting probably, but usually people don't consider faulty inference to be lying (they consider false premises to be lies) and Shapiro is honestly stupid enough that he could very well believe his incorrect extrapolations a fair portion of the time. In classic debate club fashion, I think he's entirely unconcerned with the truth of the matter and just stringing together things that he believes will come off to the audience as correct.
Yeah the reason I disagree with you here is that if we're able to look past the register he uses, he's ultimately pissed about inflation, and that's actually a very reasonable thing for someone to be pissed at his government for.
He's also pissed that when he talks about his concerns, instead of being like yeah dog actually I totally understand how you can be under threat by inflation this
apologist is like "ACKTUALLY it's not Biden's fault" like that kind of shitlib behaviour is also a very reasonable thing to be angry about.
So is he right about every fact? No, but he's a regular person caught off-guard with a video camera in his face he didn't review his notes before the interaction, I'd probably have ended up saying something I couldn't back up with a source too if I was in that situation. That's not super meaningful.
But instead of thinking about any of this we're just supposed to point and laugh at the ignorant republican, it just feels like a cheap and lazy way to feel satisfied that you're not on his side without having to engage with a human being.
I really don't think this guy in the clip cares about any of the issues you're giving him credit for. The litmus test of course is, where were these people when trump was experiencing economy problems? Were they screaming in reporters faces about trump's performance issues?