• jackmarxist [any]
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    EU countries no longer possess the ability to resist American will. They'll nuke each other if the US wants it.

    • geikei [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Half of them (baltics, belgium,netherlands,scandinavia, even Germany etc) yeah. For the other half going to war against Russia on Ukraine due to the plant getting destroyed or leaking ?? Naaaah

      No matter how cucked the party in power is it just wouldnt fly in a bunch of them. I'm just saying from a Greek perspective ,if the PM announced tommorrow that we are sending even 5k troops and half our armor to Ukraine to fight against Russia, the country would come to a halt for weeks and even half the army would just implode. Easily 10%+ of the population will take the streets and major city centers will basicaly burn.There would be like a 5% popular support for that. Outside of the baltics or completely dominated by brainbroken russia crazed liberal populations and political spheres like Belgium and Netherlands etc the friction would be unsustainable. Same with France to a lesser degree. Macron isnt pulling off going to war against Russia even if he wanted to, which actualy i think he doesnt. Same with Tukrey im pretty sure and they are even more geopoliticaly and militarily their own player. Good luck to anything requiring a consensus or near consensus decision from NATO countries . At least 30% of them including the bigger players wouldnt join in by anything bellow Putin straight up being caught on camera missle striking a major NATO city

      • amtoodumbtousethinkbox [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        i made this to be some sort of throw away but this thread is interesting and to give some french context, not one normal french person who hasnt had their frontal lobe melted by tv or the news circus france cares about ukraine, no one wants to fight there, most people realized months ago that ukraine will lose and to be brutally honest, all people care about here is the fact that a baguette went from a euro to THREE in some cities. Add to this that most people know the media has been bought out by billionaires and the only ones who trust it are +50, a minority, you got a country very much bent on not going to war. I also purposefully left out the massive middle finger the establiremovedt gave to the entire country and the near civil war situation that existed until very recently and that could explode again at any time. Macron isn't dumb even though hes a neolib and he knows this is simply impossible and the country would implode. Besides we're the only country in europe with our own nukes, and our military gear is actually suited for a real conflict unlike the cash cow wunderwaffens grifts the MIC keeps pumping out, so wtf is the US going to do? Call us allies of putler and declare war? Fucking lol

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          They almost imploded from the raising of retirement age, imagine going to war against the Russian. Macron head would be on a pike shortly

          • amtoodumbtousethinkbox [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            i'm pretty sure the army would just coup him to stop a very likely civil war from happening, which would directly lead to fascism and a civil war happening anyway. fun!