• zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    1 year ago

    So much of modern NATO that isn't the US is just Turkey and France. They're the ones you need to convince, and neither of them seem particularly on board for this shit.

      • geikei [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Nah i dont believe these two would go to war on Ukraine. Even if Macron pushed for it ,which i really doupt, the riots and anti-war rallies would be destabilizing to a huge degree and unlike america like 50% of the electoral constituency and parties wouldnt support it. Turkey wouldnt fucking care about guily by assosication and Erdogan just secured his position with the elections and the country has many trade and military options. Population is probably 95% strongly against going to war against russia unless they are straight up attacked and the western media narrative about the war isnt dominant for most of the population despite their political beliefs. They arent the baltics or completely dominated by brainbroken russia crazed liberal populations and political spheres like idk Belgium and Netherlands.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        Maybe. But they both seem content to play both ends against the middle.