Sorry to do this debate-bro stuff, but how would you respond to someone who says fascism is left-wing?

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qOsVqXMFAdg is two rightists talking is fascism left or right, and Gerard Casey concludes that fascism is left-wing. He cites the Fascist Manifesto of 1919, which in fairness does look pretty left-wing, is mostly about worker benefits.

Counterpoints I can think of:

  • Fascism is inegalitarian.

  • Fascism is oppressive

  • Fascism is about privatisation – but I'm not very clued in on the history of this, on what industries fascist governments privatised and how consistent they were with this. Did they also nationalise other industries?]

  • Unask the question, say 'left' and 'right' are meaningless

Again, sorry about this. Obviously not trying to defend fascism, just trying to get clarity.

  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    They never actually implement anything proworker.

    At first I wanted to quip about that, like the Nazis ensured a steady supply of soldiers for the Soviets to beat, which is pro workers as it shows the superiority of real existing socialist states.

    However the point I would rather highlight and highlight boldly is this:

    Whenever the NSDAP (german nazi party) did something pro worker or pro family or alike it was also clothed in something to exclude some and further hierarchies. For example any advantage in animal rights wasn't really for the animals, and in fact it didn't challenge the production process or help animals, instead it was used to criminalize and other for example Jews and Arabs who wanted Kosher or Halal food, the main target was the first though and by a wide margin.

    Nazism needs scape goats and people to literally exterminate, in the end it will eat itself.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The end stage of fascism would just be the last guy killing the second-last guy for having the wrong blood type or something