"Red-brown alliance" is a term that was used to slander the CPUSA for its politics on Cuba and the USSR, to slander the USSR for making a treaty with Hitler (Matt Christman did this recently btw he called it an alliance, you all have goopy brains). You're repurposing it against people who are literally just brown-brown. There's no red-brown. Goddamnz

It's like "no genocide denial" - sure it sounds nice to you in your imagination, but it has history. In reality it means banning everyone who denies Stalin & Mao killed 50 billion people, banning everyone who points out China isn't sterilizing Uyghurs, wholeheartedly eating the Victims of Communism Foundation propaganda or you don't get to speak.

My post on the "no red brown alliance" banner should not have been removed. I got a lot of incredibly smug and condescending responses and the site kept hanging when I tried to reply, it didn't seem like anyone actually read it properly.

You seem to think that because non-Marxists like Red Scare, Maupin, and Infrared (all weirdos into Heidegger who have NEVER read Marxist writing! JUST LIKE ZIZEK! Stop entertaining these clowns!), or the deranged Fourth Political Theory people exist that means there is some tendency for alliance between Marxists and fascists.

Ironically the first time I heard this phrase was from Alexander Reid-Ross (before he got ousted from Portland State for sexual harassment) posting about the Chapo subreddit, using analytics to prove they were fascist by association. The same way he used dubious anonymous twitter account examples to pin guilt by association on things. Also was used during the Iraq war & Syrian war as slander against antiwar communists, it’s the exact same kind of thing as “why do communists think russia is based??? It’s not communist silly!” thing but applied to Saddam Hussein and Assad. Really just goes to show how well Twitch reality show politics trojan horses NATO bullshit into people’s minds

@CommieCretzl@hexbear.net @LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net @blight@hexbear.net @silent_water@hexbear.net @flan@hexbear.net @Dryad@hexbear.net @Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net Surely all of you who I was cut off from responding to originally will engage with this in good faith instead of hiding behind passive aggression and memes.

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    It's been a long time since I've seen a post make me go jesse-wtf. I rate this post a 9/10 on the wtf-am-i-reading scale

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I read it twice and it reads like the ramblings of a madman

        For real, what are you whining about here? This is some extreme level of sub tweeting that makes not sense without me literally being in your head.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            What last thread. This is what I mean about subtweeting. This is some hyper specific complaint you have going on here about what seems to be extremely online bullshit.

            Also chill homie. Were people getting mad at your for using the term "red brown alliance"?

            • Dick_Guy_Is_Back_Its_Me_OK [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              I am scolding people for defending the site's use of "no red brown alliance" as a banner.

              You guys lack any historical context outside internet bullshit it's pathetic

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Okay there we go, that's a fair point to make. Though when anyone here says "red brown alliance" they're talking specifically of social nationalists.

                I understand that historically there's usage of it as an anti-communist trope, but I also don't think that it's a term that really needs to be defended. I think understand it's historical use is important, but now a days it actually has some use because the myths of the "red brown alliance" actually stuck and uneducated people and fascists have latched on to the concept.

                • Dick_Guy_Is_Back_Its_Me_OK [none/use name]
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                  1 year ago

                  I'm sure it seems that way to people who know who Keffals is. You're the uneducated people clearly. 30 people responded "huh? Huh? Post hog!" But I've never heard about it from anyone outside this weird discord/patreon/twitter brain poisoning zone. Literally nobody cares about maupin and dugin. The nazbols aren't marxist in the slightest they just like strong men big country.

                  There's no need to call any of this a red brown alliance. There's no red involved. None

                  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    you're completely right but you've found possibly the most obnoxious way to be correct possible

                    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      Yeah this is a fucked vibe for something that I think would actually be a good site struggle session.

                      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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                        1 year ago

                        don't snort a line before a struggle sesh is probably not the moral I thought i'd walk away with tonight.

                        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                          1 year ago

                          For real, like definitely ban this account. They're saying some misogynist, fatphobic, and unhinged shit. I'm definitely gonna read up about the historical use of "red brown alliance" though. I knew about his it was used to slander the USSR for the MR pact, but didn't know it was continually used as a psyop. I always saw it as more of a warning than an attack, especially in the past 10-15 years.

                          But whoever this is I think has been living in a cave for a few decades at least.

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    The CPC literally interviewed Maupin as a representative of the American left on CGTN. So he's successfully grifted media time and has positioned himself as a "leftist" even though he's a fascist.

                    And I'm cool with not calling it red brown alliance, I never thought there was red involved in any of those specific instances anyways. It really should be more clearly defined as "there cannot be a red brown alliance"

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        For someone who's slinging shit about other people being extremely online, you're acting extremely online. Touch grass comrade, then come back and write up a mega thread post about the history of the term red brown alliance

        • Dick_Guy_Is_Back_Its_Me_OK [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          I'm actually more online than any of you I just don't hang out in the online equivalent of an anime club 24/7 and i get a normal amount of oxygen to my brain. It's fine. Most women are more online than me. Doesn't interfere with their social life. It's not a binary online good online bad thing

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Advice to not use the term red brown alliance?

                Also you really need to chill, you've already been misogynist and fatphobic in this thread and will be banned for that alone. So if you come back, please try and engage with the community more respectfully and try to take your thoughts and express them more clearly and stop taking things so personally.

                If you start shit slinging on this site with a new account you will absolutely be relentlessly bullied and that's a good thing.

                • Dick_Guy_Is_Back_Its_Me_OK [none/use name]
                  hexagon
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                  1 year ago

                  Advice to stop interpreting everyone who disagrees with you as an untermenchen chud. I am better than all of you in almost every way. I don't want to bring that into this.

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    I am better than all of you in almost every way

                    Yeah, you need to chill. This is legitimately unhinged and absolutely insanely dumb individualist nonsense.

                    • Dick_Guy_Is_Back_Its_Me_OK [none/use name]
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                      1 year ago

                      Oh that's meant to be hyperbole I just don't get the whole fake "dirtbag" machismo interspersed with passive aggression which is used the way liberals use Office Gifs.

                      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                        1 year ago

                        You don't understand this site culture at all. The dirt bag machismo is absolutely a joke reserved exclusively for anyone who comes in and starts shit.

                        It's the white blood cells of Hexbear. If you're getting bullied here, it's because you haven't lurked enough and learned how to bring up discourse like this. Just running into a thread and telling at people is childish. Make an effort post and explain and people will listen.

  • Dryad [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    I literally wasn't even arguing with you and you pinged me. (Edit: tried and failed to ping me to be clear) Normal behavior

    comrade-raccoon damn this garbage tastes good though

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  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It keeps jumping around from like 65 to 3

    The new report input box is dangerously close to the comment box.

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  • blight [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    you know what? that's fair. the vibe is a little weird at this point but your argument makes sense