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Feels like back in the 90's people were a bit more chill and didn't go into a genocidal lunatic rage at the mere mention of the country. Wild to think people used to get down with hong kong action movies.
i remember so many articles as a kid breathlessly describing "the rise of china" as a sort of neutral/neutral-good thing. everyone thought they were going to get addicted to a market economy and politically "liberalize" aka become a heavily manipulated and corrupted multi-party parlimentary liberal "democracy". i guess there was a bunch of excitement about looting the place
i think the anti-corruption crackdowns basically saved the country and the Party
They wanted to do to China and Russia what they did to Japan, South Korea and their other allies (make obedient puppet states that they could suck dry) so there was a brief period in the 90s where they were less openly hostile to China and Russia "It's the 90s! The cold war is over, Russia's our friend now!"
But China and Russia have not fully become subservient to the US and so the war drums start
Russia is more baffling because it was 100% a US client state, the reactionary lib compradors the US chose and propped up are still in power, and Russia was licking America's boots and begging for approval right up until 2014. The way American officials managed to alienate their own handpicked puppets like that is astounding.
Like I genuinely can't understand how and why the US decided to do that, it's like the real scary, cynical old cold warrior demons won and got the complete American hegemony they'd spent their lives angling for, and then they retired happy and their successors just flailed around and undid it all within twenty years. Like it's this self-defeating blend of grifters trying to engineer conflicts so their arms dealer stocks go up, and dipshit true believers who think the US is some divine force of ontological good and purity who are entirely guided by the unhinged propaganda the grifters draw up for them, and nowhere in any of this is there a single cynical statesman monster capable of coldly planning for hegemony left holding any sort of power.
It's a truly impressive level of rot and collapse that's only picking up speed as the world catches on to the fact that the machine of imperial hegemony has been hollowed out by graft and no one's going to fix it.
The way American officials managed to alienate their own handpicked puppets like that is astounding.
I'm going to say it's probably ego. Look at how easy Australia folds to their every whim, for example.
They didn't realise that trying that with a powerful country might back fire. Especially because they did tried to debt trap Russia after the cold war
I think what happened there was that the Russians refused to allow the US to dictate all the terms of the relationship, which is obviously something that's unacceptable to the poo-brained empire.
The US started pushing Russia and China into hostile relations with the US after the West screwed up the Yugoslav war.
At the time, they were really against the NATO air strikes in Serbia. Slobodan Milosevic and his brother proposed that Yugoslavia join the Union State of Russia and Belarus. And NATO almost attacked Russian troops near the border between Kosovo and Serbia for no reason. In addition, the US bombed the Chinese embassy in 1999, which further deteriorated relations, which never improved.
Soviet union come back please wreak holy vengeance on the empires
i remember so many articles as a kid breathlessly describing "the rise of china" as a sort of neutral/neutral-good thing.
That's because the Westoid capitalists were making huuuuge buckets of money in China either ! manufacturing for export or selling to the domestic market. Back then China wasn't a credible military threat or economic competition, so those articles were the capitalist's feeding call.
They were also high on end of history histrionics and genuinely believed that economic prosperity would lead to an american style free market economy. And I don't think people were silly to think that way in the 90s. You had to be in the know to realize the fundamentals at play. That China, unlike the Soviets, did not privatize the commons but instead implemented a market economy. The only hint of how things were going was how Japan was forcefully turned into an american sharemarket economy. China by all indications did not have to and didn't.
my grandfather used to describe Hong Kong as like this burning ember of liberal market capitalism that would basically spread across China eventually. that they would become addicted to the wealth generated there and replicate it everywhere (this was in the 90s).
he couldn't predict how utterly irrelevant Hong Kong would become
That's cuz ppl thought China was goin' the full comprador route... hence, the media depiction is a bit toned down, compared to now, but there are still some movies with condemnation of revolutionary China during that time, so I'm not sure...
But even then, Hong Kong and China are kinda different animals; most of the time, what we watch are mostly Hong Kong films, not mainlander filmers...
The 80's and most of the 90's were the Japanese Yellow Scare
We thought their quality products and affordable cars would bury us alive
Most of the 90's
Didn't Japan's real estate bubble crash heavily during those times?
I mean, it seems that the U.S, in the 90s' generally, seemed to thrive, throughout the post-Cold War suffering that they've caused...
Edit: Look at CindyTheSkull's response for explanation...
Did Japan's real estate bubble crash heavily during those times?
The US reined in their vassals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord
It crashed in 1991, but I think the yellow scare lasted into the mid 90s for some people. I remember my parents always acting like stuff made in Japan was inferior to American made products.
Hell I remember it in the late 90s and even early 2000s with the Pokemon satanic panic.
Southpark literally made an episode at the time [Racism, dick shaming]
spoiler
where Pokemon was a weird thing Japan was using to brainwash kids. I forget the details, but there is a scene where the Japanese CEO's of Pokemon or whatever talk about (voiced by a white dude doing a very racist Japanese accent) how "Japan have small penis"
South Park has poisoned an entire generation's brains.
Matt Parker and Trey Stone are such fucking shitheads. I hope they're miserable sitting on their pile of money
Good grief, why do I remember that the fake pokemon was called chinpokomon
I swear to God nobody thinks as much about the penises of other men as much as ostensibly straight white men.
In the 90s, China being the country that fought America in the Falloutverse was a joke, because obviously they were the poorest country in the world and they had way too many people and the air was a toxic soup and they should really be more like India and drop all the communism stuff, etc etc.
"Oh here we go, woke movie has to appeal to China these days to get (((globalist))) money"
A lot of Hollywood studios do consult with China to ensure their films will be allowed to be shown there, and thus give them access to the largest market in the world.
All in the name of American capitalism, but it’s not really a myth.
What is a myth is usually "they removed X because of Chinese censors" - the truth is Chinese censors don't really have a definitive list of things they don't like, it's more of a vibe, and Western companies tend to overcorrect while Chinese artists know where the line is and how to toe it.
Oh yeah, totally. Chuds have motives all wrong though, like always
I thought you were going to say something about setting up a giant bitcoin scam and achieving fame because of that
Jackie Chan punching through round wooden boards painted like coins while a voice over rants about fiat currency.
Most of Jackie Chan's HK filmography is good, even if he does play a cop or a soldier for the Br*tish colony in some of them.
Too many martial arts movies to list. All of John Woo's HK filmography, really.
"Internal Affairs" - Cop crime thriller which was later adapted into 'The Departed' by reflavoring it to be about Irish-American gangsters and the FBI
"Once a Gangster" - Convoluted crime comedy about a chef who becomes a crime boss
Not an action movie but still here to recommend
Comrades: Almost a Love Story!
I remember Jackie Chan being a thing (movies, that one cartoon) early in my childhood then I feel like he just disappeared from reality (almost like Mandela effect), and by disappeared I also mean the entire genre of movies he usually does.
and by disappeared I also mean the entire genre of movies he usually does.
Yeah action comedy martial arts movies aren't as big as they once were in the west, now the closest thing we have may be marvel movies with their cgi instead of real action and the quips instead of actual comedy
Action movies in general have gotten more and more pro military with a tone of gritty "realism" (obviously bullshit given these are usually propaganda films) that makes what Jackie Chan does not really possible in the genre
Like I could see an old school action movie having Jackie Chan as a character and doing his thing and it could fit nicely but this new shit is too grimdark for him
They were better times.
I recently torrented the entire Jackie Chan filmography and worked through some of them. They don't always hold up, but they're always fun and have such a different style than current movies. It's mostly a shame for kids.
