I literally never once heard the word "homeland" in a US nationalism context until a week after 9/11
god damn america
The crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away except with blood. A majority of Democratic voters say Israel is committing genocide with the U.S.'s help, and they don't call themselves "former Democratic voters." I've had people rant at me with disgust at my "purity" for . . . opposing genocide.
There aren't even any analogies to compare this to, it's already as bad as it gets.
If Biden wins the election again, there will be a day soon after that his press secretary will stand behind the podium and say that however-many millions of people voted for Joe Biden. Even though many of those people did so against their best judgement, many oppose everything that Joe Biden has done in his career, many would have never voted for him otherwise, except Trump was the other guy, the press secretary will say this as if that is however-many millions of endorsements of Joe Biden, everything he stands for, everything he's done, and whatever he's doing in the current news cycle. I'm not going to be one of those however-many millions of people. I'm not going to hear myself bring referred to as a reason that a genocide supporter will continue materially aiding an ongoing genocide.
Yep. Like the chud I met in 2017 who said that Trump was deemed innocent of sexual assault because the voters absolved him. (He also pretended to forget that Trump lost the popular vote.)
Looking forward to pundits claiming that Joe Biden has a mandate to continue supporting israel since he was voted in again. He's just giving the people what they want and voted for after all
They'll say it about the border too. Democrats and republicans are both border hawks all of a sudden, and Democrats will hold both of these values at the same time.
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republicans are evil to the core and must be stopped at all costs. Their border bills are racist
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the only people that don't agree with the border crackdown are tankies who want completely open borders. I don't hate immigrants, I just hate illegal ones! Even the republicans agree! So you're in the minority, kiddo. Let the adults in the room handle it from here
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American concentration camps for immigrants literally inspired Hitler
Torture used to be the thing that only the "bad guys" did.
I refused to watch Zero Dark Thirty, and from what I hear (and suspected), it made the efficacy of and justification for torture “ambiguous.” I hear that torture realpolitik was bread & butter fare on 24, which I also wouldn’t watch.
I just assume everything on the big or small screens is imperial propaganda and psyops now.
Yeah they were simply not secret and were called slave plantations instead
I literally never once heard the word "homeland" in a US nationalism context until a week after 9/11
Not too harp on this too hard but: Slavery? Trail of tears? Manifest destiny? It's been dogshit since the beginning. Who cares if the term "homeland" sounds dystopian. The vocabulary doesn't really matter. The attitude behind it has always been there. Like getting hung up on the word "homeland" is a Peggy Noonan ass point to make:
In a June 2002 column, Republican consultant and speechwriter Peggy Noonan expressed the hope that the Bush administration would change the name of the department, writing that, "The name Homeland Security grates on a lot of people, understandably. Homeland isn't really an American word, it's not something we used to say or say now"
She wasn't annoyed at the department itself, but how it was presented to the public.
And as others said already, of course America was torturing people before 9/11.
Yeah, we used to think the network of secret torture camps was just a local thing.
Twenty-two years later and I’m still not over “homeland.” For me it will never be normalized.
I was 13 around 9/11 and even back then, I could see the slippery slope of the word "terrorist" being bandied about any time someone ran up against state dept talking points. Now here we are. You're a terrorist for protesting. You're a terrorist for wanting less war. You're a terrorist for drinking boba on a Tuesday...
Im pretty sure the average us american thought they were the good guys
