I don't think it's a gen x or boomer thing, I think there have always been men we'd now identify as incels in patriarchal society, as it's the logical end point of male sexual entitlement. The way we describe them has changed, but ideas like women not being able to be trusted with money or men not showing their feelings go back hundreds, if not thousands of years. I think what's really changed is the internet has given those people somewhere to gather and jerk themselves off about how unfair it is, intensifying their persecution complexes and causing them to act out more.
I don’t think it’s a gen x or boomer thing, I think there have always been men we’d now identify as incels in patriarchal society, as it’s the logical end point of male sexual entitlement.
This is a pretty good macro-level way to look at it, I'm just trying to keep my lens fixed to recent history, y'know, likening/affixing the concept to 'sources' (even if not primary sources) that we all know and can identify immediately in our orbits. It's absolutely the logical endpoint, but to me, at the point where it affects us all, I see it all starts again with each man that COULD have broken that cycle, but couldn't even be incentivized to.
Cause there WERE some that actually tried NOT to; I've seen them, I've met them, but I've also seen their kids just totally go sides-up from proper teaching and acting to sink into this incel shit because of the crowd the kid keeps-- and the cycle in their bloodline starts again with the kid that went sideways, y'know?
Ah, I see what you mean, I'd misinterpreted you as saying the wider phenomenon only started with genx/boomers. Definitely agree with everything you've said, then.
I don't think it's a gen x or boomer thing, I think there have always been men we'd now identify as incels in patriarchal society, as it's the logical end point of male sexual entitlement. The way we describe them has changed, but ideas like women not being able to be trusted with money or men not showing their feelings go back hundreds, if not thousands of years. I think what's really changed is the internet has given those people somewhere to gather and jerk themselves off about how unfair it is, intensifying their persecution complexes and causing them to act out more.
This is a pretty good macro-level way to look at it, I'm just trying to keep my lens fixed to recent history, y'know, likening/affixing the concept to 'sources' (even if not primary sources) that we all know and can identify immediately in our orbits. It's absolutely the logical endpoint, but to me, at the point where it affects us all, I see it all starts again with each man that COULD have broken that cycle, but couldn't even be incentivized to.
Cause there WERE some that actually tried NOT to; I've seen them, I've met them, but I've also seen their kids just totally go sides-up from proper teaching and acting to sink into this incel shit because of the crowd the kid keeps-- and the cycle in their bloodline starts again with the kid that went sideways, y'know?
Ah, I see what you mean, I'd misinterpreted you as saying the wider phenomenon only started with genx/boomers. Definitely agree with everything you've said, then.