I would like to add that our brains work so that if you see stuff in a movie there is a good chance that a decade later your brain will present it as "something that likely happened / you know about" and that is one of the hallmarks of the hollywood propaganda. My parents who were quite in to movies and shows do think plenty of stuff they saw in movies is stuff that really happened - which it isn't.
One classical example in the US is the anti-left propaganda of the US veteran who gets spit on from the Rambo movie. While it would've been good if that was a regular occurrence it wasn't and yet plenty people think it happened, it happened to friends.
I would like to add that our brains work so that if you see stuff in a movie there is a good chance that a decade later your brain will present it as "something that likely happened / you know about"
people need to read books and do research. I don't want to live in a world where every 80 year old thinks they were in Squid Game
This is something I've thought a lot about recently as well. It doesn't help that media literacy is an at all time low, and movies are more concerned with being based on a true story!!!!! as opposed to just telling a story. Every time I tell my dad about a movie he asks me if it's something that happened in real life, and even if I tell him no he asks if it could have happened in real life. Movies aren't real ffs, and that's not the point of movies either.
To some extent I think it's a consequence of the lack of media literacy. It used to be that if you read a novel or watched a play, those mediums had enough limits that you'd sort of intuitively pick up on the fact that it's an abstraction. But the medium of film is free to get arbitrarily close to the real, and when filmmakers don't have to bother putting themes and subtext in their movie (or audiences have forgotten to even try to look for those things), so they'd rather entertain audiences by offering an image of reality that lends itself very well to the creation of propaganda.
"Homecoming: When the Soldiers Returned From Vietnam is a book of selected correspondence published in 1989. Its genesis was a controversial newspaper column of 20 July 1987 in which Chicago Tribune syndicated columnist Bob Greene asked whether there was any truth to the folklore that Vietnam veterans had been spat upon when they returned from the war zone. Greene believed the tale was an urban legend. The overwhelming response to his original column led to four more columns, then to a book collection of the most notable responses.
After Greene made his best effort to check the truth of the accounts to be printed, he inserted a minimum of his own commentary in the text, preferring to let the veterans' words speak for themselves. The reprinted letters show a steady pattern of mistreatment of Vietnam veterans by all segments of American society, and in a wide variety of settings.
Homecoming was later criticized by those who did not believe that Vietnam veterans had been spat upon."
weird how that entire section is totally unsourced.
idk it's definitely cool if it happened but i feel like someone somewhere would have come out to brag about it, "hell yeah i spat on those shitheads and i'd do it again" kinda thing
true, but i could use that to buy a gumball instead. and given what even wikipedia is willing to say about this dude, i get the feeling it would be more intellectually stimulating as well
like aside from all the criticisms of his journalism ("the journalistic equivalent of Tuna Helper" lmao jesus christ), you neglected to mention that your boy got shitcanned for fucking a 17 year old in his 50s
forgive me if i don't find his troop fellating sob stories particularly credible.
One classical example in the US is the anti-left propaganda of the US veteran who gets spit on from the Rambo movie. While it would've been good if that was a regular occurrence it wasn't and yet plenty people think it happened, it happened to friends.
Fuck, I never saw Rambo so I didn't know it came from that. I know a vet who talks about how terrible it was that that happened.
I would like to add that our brains work so that if you see stuff in a movie there is a good chance that a decade later your brain will present it as "something that likely happened / you know about" and that is one of the hallmarks of the hollywood propaganda. My parents who were quite in to movies and shows do think plenty of stuff they saw in movies is stuff that really happened - which it isn't.
One classical example in the US is the anti-left propaganda of the US veteran who gets spit on from the Rambo movie. While it would've been good if that was a regular occurrence it wasn't and yet plenty people think it happened, it happened to friends.
people need to read books and do research. I don't want to live in a world where every 80 year old thinks they were in Squid Game
I personally did free the world from the combine, though
Hey I remember doing that, so it must have happened!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKb7Hyus5-Y
This is something I've thought a lot about recently as well. It doesn't help that media literacy is an at all time low, and movies are more concerned with being
based on a true story!!!!! as opposed to just telling a story. Every time I tell my dad about a movie he asks me if it's something that happened in real life, and even if I tell him no he asks if it could have happened in real life. Movies aren't real ffs, and that's not the point of movies either.
To some extent I think it's a consequence of the lack of media literacy. It used to be that if you read a novel or watched a play, those mediums had enough limits that you'd sort of intuitively pick up on the fact that it's an abstraction. But the medium of film is free to get arbitrarily close to the real, and when filmmakers don't have to bother putting themes and subtext in their movie (or audiences have forgotten to even try to look for those things), so they'd rather entertain audiences by offering an image of reality that lends itself very well to the creation of propaganda.
"Homecoming: When the Soldiers Returned From Vietnam is a book of selected correspondence published in 1989. Its genesis was a controversial newspaper column of 20 July 1987 in which Chicago Tribune syndicated columnist Bob Greene asked whether there was any truth to the folklore that Vietnam veterans had been spat upon when they returned from the war zone. Greene believed the tale was an urban legend. The overwhelming response to his original column led to four more columns, then to a book collection of the most notable responses.
After Greene made his best effort to check the truth of the accounts to be printed, he inserted a minimum of his own commentary in the text, preferring to let the veterans' words speak for themselves. The reprinted letters show a steady pattern of mistreatment of Vietnam veterans by all segments of American society, and in a wide variety of settings.
Homecoming was later criticized by those who did not believe that Vietnam veterans had been spat upon."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homecoming:_When_the_Soldiers_Returned_from_Vietnam
weird how that entire section is totally unsourced.
idk it's definitely cool if it happened but i feel like someone somewhere would have come out to brag about it, "hell yeah i spat on those shitheads and i'd do it again" kinda thing
eh, either way
The book is $2.34 on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Homecoming-When-Soldiers-Returned-Vietnam/dp/0399133860
"He included an open invitation for anyone who had spat upon a returning veteran to explain their motivation." No such reply was received.
true, but i could use that to buy a gumball instead. and given what even wikipedia is willing to say about this dude, i get the feeling it would be more intellectually stimulating as well
like aside from all the criticisms of his journalism ("the journalistic equivalent of Tuna Helper" lmao jesus christ), you neglected to mention that your boy got shitcanned for fucking a 17 year old in his 50s
forgive me if i don't find his troop fellating sob stories particularly credible.
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Fuck, I never saw Rambo so I didn't know it came from that. I know a vet who talks about how terrible it was that that happened.