If you care about this and have the time, just start grabbing links from hexbear or reddit or your bookmarks and post them to appropriate non-beehaw communities.
Beehaw is a large, active, “no tankies allowed” lemmy instance that has suspiciously defederated from much of the rest of the fediverse, including its largest competitors lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
This potentially threatens the lemmyverse as a system. If Beehaw gains a critical mass of the active lemmy userbase, and continues to defederate from its competitors, it could cause a vicious cycle where everyone goes to Beehaw because “that’s where everyone is.” Alternatively, Beehaw could use the threat of defederation to backseat-moderate other instances and enforce Beehaw politics outside of Beehaw. Either way, federation is defeated if Beehaw gets big enough.
*Lemmy.world is like twice as active as beehaw rn, I think beehaw fucked themselves over with their vetting process
This will never even come close to happening a site where you need to do 10 pages of reading and then write a 3 page essay to receive an account will never come close to receiving a critical mass of users and quite frankly none of the other big instances seem to really like beehaw either so I wouldn’t worry about this and I don’t think anyone on here was posting on beehaw to begin with, they will in no way shape or form “defeat federation”
FR. Beehaw is fucking mega-cringe, but this isn't exactly secret knowledge. There are several larger instances. Lemmy.world is up to 60K at this point, Lemmy.ml is at 40K. Beehaw is at 11K.
I think lemmy.world is the most viable
Lemmy.world seems to be the largest Lemmy instance, and they still have not succumbed to the onslaught of "ban lemmygrad on principle" liberals. I mean, I have absolutely no reason to trust the admins, but they haven't done it yet even when communities I'd expect to be much more alert to this red scare shit (like blahaj.zone 😢) have.
One of the biggest tells is when an instance bans Lemmygrad.ml (for being MLs) and doesn't ban Lemmygrad[.]com (for being right-deveationist "MAGA communists" typo-squatting on another community)
But we all already knew that liberals were ill-equipped to moderate leftist discourse.
They have like 150 users/month, I would imagine people just don't know they exist.
For ordinary users, fair. But I expect the people who are operating the network to have a slightly better idea of what is going on. What's happening is we have a bunch of day-one transplants showing up telling the people who have been on Lemmy/Fedi for three years what the problems are.
I've been in touch with Ruud and his philosophy seems to be "if they aren't breaking rules, we will not act against them". They've only hit places for hatespeech.
I'm trying to figure out what their relationship is going to be with community operators. The same relationship as admins to moderators on reddit or not? Have put this question to them as I have a number of subreddits that could funnel users over.
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lemmy.world hasn’t defederated from lemmygrad but individual lemmy.world communities will still ban individual users for defending socialist states
They haven't defederated with Lemmygrad, but they've blocked the GenZedong community. If you go to lemmy.world, click on the Communities tab and search for GenZedong, it won't show up at all. Since that's by far the most active comm on Lemmygrad, that's almost the same as defederating, but done in a cowardly lib way where're technically not doing it.
Last I checked they don’t have the most users but they make up for it with activity. I was looking through the most active communities the other day and a lot were on beehawposts on lemmy.world have twice as many comments as on beehaw, so I think I’m wrong
sopuli is biggish and the two of them are part of a clique. I'm glad that beehaw got so annoying it was already alienating even the lib instances though.
i know you’re joking but iirc they just have the same little questionnaire as lemmy.ml and it’s just like “why do you want to join, what communities are you interested in, and why did you pick your name” which I answered with one sentence bullet points
I did that too and got rejected for not explaining how I align with the beehaw philosophy or whatever. All I said was basically I like Reddit and want to find a friendly Reddit replacement and I couldnt get an account. Did you sign up with an email address?
Oh I’ve never actually signed up for Beehaw I just looked at the signup process