• ChapoBapo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Literally trying to start a struggle sesh smh

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      4 years ago

      A "struggle session" over this among vegans is a conversation between people who understand the issue and people who only understand it because of the pro-honey agricultural lobby media campaign.

      Anyone who can claim that beekeeping is good or even non-harmful is someone who has done no reading on the topic and cannot detail how it is beneficial.

      • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Struggle sessions can, in fact, exist between people who are right and who are wrong, and starting them on purpose can exist in that context.

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          4 years ago

          That's what I said, yes.

          Your phrasing of "Literally trying to start a struggle sesh smh" seemed to imply disapproval, but maybe that was joking.

          Struggle sessions that are solved through education like the feral cat one or this one are valuable and don't devolve into people just opinion-flinging back and forth.

          • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            You putting quotes around struggle session seemed to imply it wasn't a struggle session. It's a question that's been litigated a million times and seems calculated to divide people and start shit, so yeah, even if there's a right and wrong answer, I kinda question if the person starting it is in fact interested in the answer.

            • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              If it ends up with more people informed on exactly why honey isn't considered vegan and the exploitation that comes with the industry, I'm happy with it.