Building off some good discussion in the other thread today. I’m thinking about how can white Hexbear users can be better here, and in leftist spaces, AND when we engage with the broader BIPOC communities? What are we doing wrong, and what can we do that’s better?

And I 100% get that’s it’s not on marginalized folks to explain it to us. I do. It’s just, at this moment I’m trying not to get overwhelmed with feeling like it’s just not possible to make the world better. Not even get us to socialism, just getting things to be a tiny bit better. I don’t know what else to do. So I’m reaching out to my BIPOC comrades with an open hand. If you feel like sharing, please do.

For the white folks, we need to be better. We do. It may not be comfortable to hear, but we do. Maybe we’re not as bad as the libs and the chuds on this but that’s not a valid measuring stick. Come on.

  • DADDYCHILL [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    white people need to give the metaphorical guns and ammunition to their bipoc comrades to help overthrow whiteness itself, since they have an inside understanding of how whiteness works we need to utilize the material support of white people. They basically have to give everything and get nothing in return, i think something that scares a lot of white people is that there will be a significant decline in their standard of living in the process of uplifting others. We need to abolish the suburbs, cars, the western style of agriculture, and the overproduction of treats, ect. They have a reason to be scared since white people are only prosperous because they stole the wealth of others.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      The thing is, the avarice is not working. We have the supposed easy life and it fucking sucks because it's still late stage capitalism. If abandoning luxury goods means that the people around me are far less miserable, that's not really "getting nothing in return", is it? Having less people suffering around me means that my day is better too.

      • DADDYCHILL [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        You ever watch the Atlanta episode on reparations? Its literally has to be like that. There needs to be some kind of tax on white people that directly goes to black people. Such a thing would cause a lot of discontent among whites, we need to push hard enough to get shit done but not too hard that whites don't cooperate, this isn't south africa we don't outnumber them yet.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          1 year ago

          Even a meaningful tax on billionaires would get us 75% of the way there… if only because most of them are various flavors of Anglo Saxon

    • BarnieusCalgar [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They basically have to give everything and get nothing in return

      Okay, but I'm not gonna do that, and you shouldn't really ever expect anybody to do that.

      Not for moralistic reasons, but because from a materialist perspective, that's just not how coalition building works.