he's correct in some sense: "maybe". every 1/10th of a degree could be critical to our survival.
but it doesn't acknowledge that this bargaining becomes increasing unlikely. 1.5 C wasn't some number chosen for it's aesthetics, it's because climate tipping points become exponentially more likely to trigger after 1.5 C, and so if you exceed 2.5 degrees, temperatures may then rise unavoidably to 3.5 degrees no matter what you do.
but it doesn't acknowledge that this bargaining becomes increasing unlikely
tag yourself in the kuber-ross stage of grief cycle, i waver between depression and acceptance
Each degree is likely hundreds of millions of deaths if not more.
Yes, but what's more is that it's probably an exponential curve sort of thing. Not only do more deaths occur as the degrees (or fractions of degrees) rise, the rate at which more deaths occur rises. There will come a point where there can't be any more deaths because there won't be any more people (and who knows how many species and how much of the biosphere will be wiped off the planet too). We don't even know for sure yet how many degrees of rise is already baked in and literally inevitable. As @flowernet@hexbear.net pointed out, there are tipping points which trigger feedback loops that simply can't be undone.
And before anyone gets mad at me and says that talking this way is "irresponsible" and "doomerism," you had better be out there at the very least organizing and agitating specifically with climate change in mind. Because if it's not too late already, it absolutely will be if capitalism is allowed to run its course. By too late, I really do mean too late to prevent a world that humanity literally could not survive on. It's not doomerism to discuss reality and remind people that the situation is more dire than most people realize. And it's not just climate denying chuds or head-in-the-sand libs who don't get how easily the worst case scenarios truly could become reality. Even otherwise well-informed leftists sometimes naively think "well sure, it's bad, but we'll pull through somehow!" If you think that's the case, no offense, but I think you don't have a proper sense of scale.
This kind of "ah well, nevertheless" language from good old Obummer, the "well shit, looks like we missed that goal, but maybe we can get the next one," kind of exemplifies what I'm talking about. The very epitome of
Comments just about him being a Muslim and Michelle secretly being a man. Literally nothing learned. Nothing is gained. It's the same right-wing culture war shit, while empty platitudes come from grifters like Obama and the world burns. More like !doomer@hexbear.net
Not even a single comment attacking him for the obvious. What the fuck. Chuds and photoshops of him in a superman outfit.
I clicked 'load more' like five or six times. Not. A. Single. One.
Standard climate change inaction tactic. Set a substandard goal, fail, then move the goalposts. Continue until baked to perfection.
What is this? Are we mice or are we men!? ONWARD TO EIGHT DEGREES! *rolls coal on a 6 mile long bunker fuel guzzling container-dreadnought*
from what I was reading when trying to reassure myself about the clathrate gun thing today that might actually happen, rejoice
Oh, What did you find out about the gun? Someone had me half convinced it was unlikely to really happen.
existential terror
I was reading that it probably isn't a big deal because most methane is locked up in sediments that are so deep that they either won't melt or if they do they physically can't meaningfully contribute to the atmosphere because they're so deep BUT the methane under the eastern siberian arctic shelf is in shallow enough sediment that yeah it could easily melt through and cause some ridiculous amount of global warming as a multiple of what human industrial activity has already caused which if true is just so fucking scary and that's why I posted earlier today that I wished I could stop reading shit that heighten my existential dread.
Yeah, sounds about right. People: "You need to stop worrying these things you're making yourself upset!" Me, screaming, waving a gun around: "Have you considered that if you did worry about these things we could fix these problems and then I wouldn't need to be upset?"
It's not a question of popular consciousness, but one of the needs of capital to grow and grow faster - effective climate change legislation hurts profits and competivity in the medium term, so the ruling political forces of the Pro-Bourgeois political forces are reluctant to do it and even reformist ones suffer from the same pressure.
It's be like a company suddenly deciding to raise wages for all its employees. Sure, it might bring some clients from socially conscious Socdems, but it also lowers the profit margins per employee - basically, it's madness from a capitalist's point of view.
Even a capitalist state led by say radlibs or greens would be uncomfortable with "going too far" - like there were slogans from the neoliberal wing of the Green Party "Between economy and the environment there's no need for an or" (Cem Özdemir, I think) and even the reforms that are done are with the promise that the ecological transformation will bring prosperity and profits to firms.
uuuuuh excuse me sweaty but temperature is an externality because we have air conditioners
