Like he'll yeah fuck the rich

  • anthropicprincipal [any]
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    4 years ago

    Every country in the world is a mixed market economy, even North Korea. Except instead of allowing the people to vote on what kind of free market economy North Korea has access to it is dictated to them. Same top down approach to the economy happened in the USSR and is currently happening in China. Why do you think Communists are better than anyone else at determining the level of a mixed market economy a nation should have?

    The idea that anyone, anywhere could ever completely "overthrow the capitalist mode of production" is a dangerous delusion. Free markets, like it or not, are here to stay. Even if that means that must be black markets.

    It is fun and all to play idealist about vastly complex socio economic issues, think you have all the answers, and can shape society into a perfect utopia. In reality, people resist change, not everyone will ever want to be wholly under the yoke of either a libertarian or communist regime, and enforcing your idealism on the real world would require massive amounts of violence.

    Subjugating the masses to political ideals ain't my bag. Let people vote, have hopefully equitable representation, and maybe muddle towards some sense of progress.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      4 years ago

      There is no such thing as the "free market" and there never was, in fact peddling that idea is fact a dangerous delusion

      Every economy on earth is dominated by command economies internal to firms interconnected by state and privately run logistical command economies all funded and secured by banks run internally as command economies, all interacting thru regulated international bodies and treaties drawn up exclusively by capitalists, this "mixed" nonsense is neoclassical garbage that fundamentally misunderstands what a capitalist market IS, what socialism IS and ignores the fact that class dynamics is the over-determining driver of the distribution of wealth not "democratic processes"

      Your whole conception of economics was literally invented in a think tank

      and enforcing your idealism on the real world would require massive amounts of violence

      Enforcing your social democracy on the world is violence, enforcing capitalism on the world is violence, enforcing private ownership of the means of production is violence, the difference is that those are normalized for you, so either you don't see that violence or you don't consider it morally on the same level as whatever the "violence" you imagine in your head looks like, either way I'm not gonna take lectures on violence from hypocrites

      • anthropicprincipal [any]
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        4 years ago

        Of course there is no such thing as a free market just like there is no such thing as a planned economy.

        Communistic planned economies like a Nozickian or Rothbardian pure free market will forever be impossible. Attempting to implement them would cause untold harm to society.