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  • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    Some shit highlights:

    Monitoring, however, was not easy. For one thing, we had a hard time finding out what was really going on in China because doctors and scientists there appeared to be afraid to speak openly, for fear of retribution by the Chinese government.

    1984

    But this was how I became the public-health official who, very early in the pandemic, instructed people not to wear a mask. Later, my words would be twisted by extreme elements in an attempt to show that I and other scientists had misled the public, that we could not be trusted, and that we were flip-floppers.

    This article has entire sections whining about division.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      perhaps the Chinese scientists were afraid to speak openly because talking to bourgeois media journalists is in the best case pointless and in the worst case they will lie and distort what you said

    • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Monitoring, however, was not easy. For one thing, we had a hard time finding out what was really going on in China because doctors and scientists there appeared to be afraid to speak openly, for fear of retribution by the Chinese government

      projection

      Death to America

    • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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      5 months ago

      Monitoring, however, was not easy. For one thing, we had a hard time finding out what was really going on in China because doctors and scientists there appeared to be afraid to speak openly, for fear of retribution by the Chinese government.

      Meanwhile you just know that if China had given detailed reports with precision breakdowns of every case in every province with tracking numbers and as much data as humanly possible, this ghoul would go full parenti and accuse them of obfuscating data

      Oh wait

      This basically fucking happened

    • TheModerateTankie [any]
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      5 months ago

      But this was how I became the public-health official who, very early in the pandemic, instructed people not to wear a mask.

      This was a supposed "white lie" to try to preserve ppe for medical professionals, which was stupid because a lot of nurses and doctors took it to mean they didn't need ppe, and as far as I know the government didn't even try to secure any ppe for medical professionals or make sure they were available.

      We knew it was airborne by how quickly it was spreading. The WHO knew it was airborne and immediately started upgrading their offices to filter the air, even while they told the world it wasn't airborne. The reason they didn't say it was airborne was because it would mean hospitals would have to take more strict measures to protect everyone, and it would cost a lot and make the job harder.

      It's insulting to be told that the evidence at the time showed that it wasn't warranted to take airborne measures.

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        I remember hearing something how even just having everyone pull their shirt over their face when inside could be somewhat effective if everyone is "masking" this way. He fucked masking up so hard (and probably so permanently in amerikkka).

  • HumongousChungus [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Waaah my reputation is falling by the wayside like all those disabled people I tried to kill

    I am going to PERSONALLY FUCK Anthony Fauci for putting out this bullshit to distract the libs from the fucking anti-vax psyop their govt has been supporting

    This is so transparent it's sickening (lol)

    • HumongousChungus [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      Many of his harshest critics during the worst of that time became soft-supporters, eventually morphing into diehard fans after a decade or so. I do wonder, in hindsight, how much of that was due to his social skills and politicking ability. Like with the WHO, these large groups of scientific or medical professionals usually end up being led not by the most well-rounded or logical of them, but those who are best at hobknobbing and social manipulation.

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    People should read the article. He talks a lot about how they completely failed.

    • HumongousChungus [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      I mean, he basically blames his abdication of the principles of public health on "how science is supposed to work", which is an outright lie. Precautionary principle dictates behavior that he signed on to abandoning and continues to justify refusing to enact. Also, he still refuses to recognize the larger failure, namely trying to spread the disease to the vulnerable in the hopes of a manageable die-off and quick return to normal (10k cases a day in his estimation), the one that's given all his readers a high risk of long term effects, because that's still not very well known. He only admits to the failures that people already recognize, which is defensiveness, not accountability.

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          I think she's talking about how Fauci pushed the "herd immunity" narrative e.g.:

          https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/12/15/946714505/fauci-predicts-u-s-could-see-signs-of-herd-immunity-by-late-march-or-early-april

          • manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
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            5 months ago

            oh yeah, thank you! Its been a while since i thought about it, our comrades phrasing really recontextualizes it for me

        • HumongousChungus [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          Sorry, didn't see this when you posted about it, but some keywords include like the other person said the failure of herd immunity through infection, comments Fauci made more recently about the vulnerable "falling by the wayside", and similar early rhetoric being linked to such views as shown by the UK covid inquiry, something which we are unlikely to ever get in the USA. There, proponents of this viewpoint used the euphemism "dry tinder" to refer to the abandoned and those deemed dysgenic.

          The US covid response was basically adjudicated between people who thought we could reopen after two weeks and deal with a short-term die-off, and those who felt a longer runway to the same result would be more manageable for the healthcare system. Much of the deaths weren't seen as worth preventing, only delaying to avoid greater disruption to the lives of more important people. Despite publicly criticizing the Great Barrington Declaration, he has helped them place their policy goals into practice and stayed silent as they failed one by one. Eventually it became the law of the land.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      He doesn't really take any accountability for his part in the failure, though. The article is mostly him placing the blame on the Trump administration and "political division"