https://archive.md/OyhZl

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    • MoreLikeHazBeen [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      sorry, page*

      Like the stuff about Gandhi: one of the sources is just wisdomquotes.com.

      Same with Bernie, etc.

      There's too many sources to check them all but a bunch of them lead to things which do not support the conclusions of the author.

      Yes AOC sucks, but some of this is reaching.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        You are quite right. I understand that it is left propaganda and of course critique would be good, but I have my trouble with gray and black propaganda. One bit was funny though:

        Believes that Trump "betrays" US values.

        Under the What is wrong with AOC column.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Some of that stuff is fair criticism, some is indistinguishable from right-wing hit pieces, and some is just sloppy.

          We really need to learn that throwing everything you can possibly think of at someone is often a bad idea. The weak or inaccurate stuff that's mixed in discredits the whole bunch. You usually want to stick to criticisms that (1) are significant and (2) are airtight.

          • JuneFall [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            I do agree with you that this is the base from which to start, but I am completely fine in specific cases to extend truth, as truth doesn't win discursive conflicts. The problem in my eyes become more significant when within the left we use that as base to draw analysis from.

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              There is no objective truth anymore so what you believe boils down to who you trust. If an even slightly skeptical person finds out they can't trust what you're saying that can turn them away entirely.