. Also because I'm Muslim my choices in the atheist v Christian dominionist fight were people who wanted me dead for being a heathen and people who wanted me dead for being an Islamo-fascist fifth columnist
A lot of skeptics movements came out of that time, too. They're not nearly as visible, being more local and regional, but there was more too it than just the reactionary New Athiests.
My perspective on this is always going to be colored by being a tumblr sjw in 2012-2014 I think where like, New Athiests were one of the worst enemies imaginable. Not that tumblr sjws were a religious bunch we criticized the reactionary element but still like, the leading anti-SJWs of the time were mostly New Athiests so in my head they became the enemy.
The perspective from other corners is good to have though. I can change my views, but my background is always going to be in my head.
because they were liberals with exactly one positive impulse (anti-religion) that calcified into its' own media-sphere and subculture without attaching itself to a legitimate political project.
this is also why they didn't move the needle at all on the rising anti-secularism in the US.
Why did all the people reacting to Bush turn out to be antifeminists though?
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I did not
Also I'm not talking about just the Horsemen of New Athiest. I'm talking about TAA and other New Athiest Youtubers and their followers.
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They're still Americans.
A lot of skeptics movements came out of that time, too. They're not nearly as visible, being more local and regional, but there was more too it than just the reactionary New Athiests.
My perspective on this is always going to be colored by being a tumblr sjw in 2012-2014 I think where like, New Athiests were one of the worst enemies imaginable. Not that tumblr sjws were a religious bunch we criticized the reactionary element but still like, the leading anti-SJWs of the time were mostly New Athiests so in my head they became the enemy.
The perspective from other corners is good to have though. I can change my views, but my background is always going to be in my head.
because they were liberals with exactly one positive impulse (anti-religion) that calcified into its' own media-sphere and subculture without attaching itself to a legitimate political project.
this is also why they didn't move the needle at all on the rising anti-secularism in the US.