Yeah pretty much which is why it's so frustrating as an ML seeing anarchists run circles around us actually doing praxis vs reading theory and splitting orgs until every individual ML had their own perfectly ideologically pure org.
This is interesting for historical reasons a lot of Marxist groups in America don't really understand you need an ethos before you can form a party program, in other words you need to form a political subject with local actios(cookouts, game night, some community action) before you can create a party and start doing party shit. Anarchists understand this better in America, I still find Marxists that think they get to impose a party platform on a community without understanding the point is to build a political subject that is able to understand its context and employee its own strategies and build a party program from the experience of becoming aware of captilisms unfreedoms and yearning to transcend it.
Being in an ML org can often feel more like a reading group and getting mad about theory. Actual praxis is rare, partly cause people who do stuff get the attention of feds and partly cause (at least from what I've seen) the line membership isn't embedded in the working class - lots of grad students or what is decisively called the PMC vs more blue collar work. Plus, when we did real stuff it was like attending a protest as an outside group to show support, like a job action or a violence against women protest etc. It felt often, to me, like we were engaged in fantasy work instead of actually building the capacity for a revolution.
Being in a DnD group or warhammer group means reading a lot of stuff and then at least doing something with it, which makes it unlike the orgs I've been in lol. The action that is taken isn't revolutionary or trying to change things, cause those groups are about playing dnd/40k and painting minis. But it also never pretended to be anything but that. Also, dnd players are infamously flakey and similarly hard to get organized on a regular schedule.
Mind if I drop you an episode on this exact problem. Its diving into the wreckage by antifada 7.2 varn log also has stunly good episosdes on christopor lash who documents what you experienced from the 1920s high recommend. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j5Apq16mjFwYm53RtmNRkIMNe2yvSRQ/view?usp=drivesdk
idk about what country you are talking about specificaly but the "west" isnt just the anglosphere . Lets not generalize who is or isnt doing stuff based on whats happening in the countries with the most dead and historicaly ailing extra-parliamentary revolutionary leftist activity
To fortify this comment I think that assuming everyone is cia is form of conspiracy mind set, things have happened but for every successful coup you have two bay of pigs. I guess make of that what you will but also the democrats at the moment are more successful at derailing the left for the last 100 years then the cia could dream of.
Yeah pretty much which is why it's so frustrating as an ML seeing anarchists run circles around us actually doing praxis vs reading theory and splitting orgs until every individual ML had their own perfectly ideologically pure org.
This is interesting for historical reasons a lot of Marxist groups in America don't really understand you need an ethos before you can form a party program, in other words you need to form a political subject with local actios(cookouts, game night, some community action) before you can create a party and start doing party shit. Anarchists understand this better in America, I still find Marxists that think they get to impose a party platform on a community without understanding the point is to build a political subject that is able to understand its context and employee its own strategies and build a party program from the experience of becoming aware of captilisms unfreedoms and yearning to transcend it.
I don't play DnD or Warhammer 40k, could you explain the relevance between these games/players and reading theory and splitting orgs?
Being in an ML org can often feel more like a reading group and getting mad about theory. Actual praxis is rare, partly cause people who do stuff get the attention of feds and partly cause (at least from what I've seen) the line membership isn't embedded in the working class - lots of grad students or what is decisively called the PMC vs more blue collar work. Plus, when we did real stuff it was like attending a protest as an outside group to show support, like a job action or a violence against women protest etc. It felt often, to me, like we were engaged in fantasy work instead of actually building the capacity for a revolution.
Being in a DnD group or warhammer group means reading a lot of stuff and then at least doing something with it, which makes it unlike the orgs I've been in lol. The action that is taken isn't revolutionary or trying to change things, cause those groups are about playing dnd/40k and painting minis. But it also never pretended to be anything but that. Also, dnd players are infamously flakey and similarly hard to get organized on a regular schedule.
Mind if I drop you an episode on this exact problem. Its diving into the wreckage by antifada 7.2 varn log also has stunly good episosdes on christopor lash who documents what you experienced from the 1920s high recommend. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j5Apq16mjFwYm53RtmNRkIMNe2yvSRQ/view?usp=drivesdk
idk about what country you are talking about specificaly but the "west" isnt just the anglosphere . Lets not generalize who is or isnt doing stuff based on whats happening in the countries with the most dead and historicaly ailing extra-parliamentary revolutionary leftist activity
To fortify this comment I think that assuming everyone is cia is form of conspiracy mind set, things have happened but for every successful coup you have two bay of pigs. I guess make of that what you will but also the democrats at the moment are more successful at derailing the left for the last 100 years then the cia could dream of.
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