Considering the potential image disaster and other repercussions of changing a candidate in this way, and the impression it would give of internal democracy, do you think any other candidate has a chance of winning the White House in the elections?
There is no more "Potential"? The image disaster is already here, the mainstream media has already said Biden needs to go, you are outside your mainstream bubble and out of step with your liberal political peers
and the impression it would give of internal democracy
What democracy? Everyone already knows this election is a false binary, the wishes of the population are not being respected or even considered at all, the current "impression" out there (which is based in reality) is that this country is descending into fascism and collapse conditions
do you think any other candidate has a chance of winning the White House in the elections?
You know who definitely doesn't have a chance as of last night? Joe Biden
Why not Kamala? What are you, some sort of sexist to suggest that she cannot run in Biden's place / s
Seriously, tho, if I were some Professional Managerial Class ghoul, I would replace Biden for good optics with literally anyone else from 2016-2020 Democratic Primaries...
Adam Schiff would be my pick. He's relatively young, high-profile for name recognition, and very generic/inoffensive. In an election against a polarizing candidate like Trump that might do it.
the impression it would give of internal democracy
Eight years ago trump won the presidency, despite most people voting for Hillary. How can anything give a worse impression of democracy then the winner getting fewer votes then the loser?
Edit: unless you're talking about the democracy within the democratic party, not within the US. In that case just pretend I'm going on a nice little side tangent about US democracy.
do you think any other candidate has a chance of winning the White House in the elections?
Lets rank them by possibility
Vice President Kamala Harris. I see her losing a la 2016 just being an absolute dipshit campaigner and ultimately being a really unpopular and offputting person.
Governor Gavin Newsom. He's basically a nobody with no publicly stated national beliefs. He looks like a slimeball and is one too. Would lose any or all of the eastern swing states, simply because he didnt have enough time to zero in on what he actually stood for.
First Lady Michelle Obama. She actually has a decent chance at winning, but why on earth would she want to? People know who she is, she's well liked by suburbanites and elites. But would she be able to actually go high when confronted by media, or when Trump calls her a man on stage and points at her photoshopped pelvic bulge? I dont know what that looks like but it does feel like something that could happen
Bernie Sanders. He was also too old in 2020 but I have a feeling that if he gunned for the nom and didnt get it and actually split from the party it would finally destroy it. Please do it grandpa. He wont but I can pray for it.
Elizabeth Warren. Same schtick as Kamala but also looks old and white. runs and the only black person to vote for her is uncle Ruckus
Pete Buttigieg. Wins when the CIA totally dissolves the fiction of american democracy and just suspiciously kills trump. If not wins the electoral college but not the popular vote. Or just fails to get a campaign organized after the convention.
Gretchen Whitmer is probably the most likeable, somewhat recognizable person they could run. She's still a centrist, but had some halfway decent policies as governor. I imagine the DNC would see her see as a compromise with the "progressive" wing, bullshit as that may be. That could be exactly what stops them from picking her, though. Also she's a woman. On the other hand, there was the whole kidnapping plot which if they were smart, they could really milk as proof of Trump being a threat to democracy, their favorite talking point. I think she's the high profile dem who would be perceived most favorably next to Trump. Shes also from the Midwest, which has all the key swing states they need to win, including her own. Gavin Newsom, the runner up, has name recognition, but he also has sleazy used car salesman vibes. Kamala would eat shit
Considering the potential image disaster and other repercussions of changing a candidate in this way, and the impression it would give of internal democracy, do you think any other candidate has a chance of winning the White House in the elections?
There is no more "Potential"? The image disaster is already here, the mainstream media has already said Biden needs to go, you are outside your mainstream bubble and out of step with your liberal political peers
What democracy? Everyone already knows this election is a false binary, the wishes of the population are not being respected or even considered at all, the current "impression" out there (which is based in reality) is that this country is descending into fascism and collapse conditions
You know who definitely doesn't have a chance as of last night? Joe Biden
Biden wasn’t democratically chosen anyway.
But regardless, just about any candidate would probably have a better chance than Biden. It still wouldn’t be a good chance, but it would be better.
Yes, that's a good point, it cannot be denied.
Of course, I'm asking if you can think of anyone who had a real chance of winning.
she's electable if you vote for her!
Why not Kamala? What are you, some sort of sexist to suggest that she cannot run in Biden's place / s
Seriously, tho, if I were some Professional Managerial Class ghoul, I would replace Biden for good optics with literally anyone else from 2016-2020 Democratic Primaries...
Adam Schiff would be my pick. He's relatively young, high-profile for name recognition, and very generic/inoffensive. In an election against a polarizing candidate like Trump that might do it.
I believe that Adam Schiff, who has all the personality of a wet blanket, would be a soft target for the GOP machine.
Eight years ago trump won the presidency, despite most people voting for Hillary. How can anything give a worse impression of democracy then the winner getting fewer votes then the loser?
Edit: unless you're talking about the democracy within the democratic party, not within the US. In that case just pretend I'm going on a nice little side tangent about US democracy.
Bush II also lost the popular vote iirc
Yep, it's happened five times (1824, 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016).
Lets rank them by possibility
Vice President Kamala Harris. I see her losing a la 2016 just being an absolute dipshit campaigner and ultimately being a really unpopular and offputting person.
Governor Gavin Newsom. He's basically a nobody with no publicly stated national beliefs. He looks like a slimeball and is one too. Would lose any or all of the eastern swing states, simply because he didnt have enough time to zero in on what he actually stood for.
First Lady Michelle Obama. She actually has a decent chance at winning, but why on earth would she want to? People know who she is, she's well liked by suburbanites and elites. But would she be able to actually go high when confronted by media, or when Trump calls her a man on stage and points at her photoshopped pelvic bulge? I dont know what that looks like but it does feel like something that could happen
Bernie Sanders. He was also too old in 2020 but I have a feeling that if he gunned for the nom and didnt get it and actually split from the party it would finally destroy it. Please do it grandpa. He wont but I can pray for it.
Elizabeth Warren. Same schtick as Kamala but also looks old and white. runs and the only black person to vote for her is uncle Ruckus
Pete Buttigieg. Wins when the CIA totally dissolves the fiction of american democracy and just suspiciously kills trump. If not wins the electoral college but not the popular vote. Or just fails to get a campaign organized after the convention.
Gretchen Whitmer is probably the most likeable, somewhat recognizable person they could run. She's still a centrist, but had some halfway decent policies as governor. I imagine the DNC would see her see as a compromise with the "progressive" wing, bullshit as that may be. That could be exactly what stops them from picking her, though. Also she's a woman. On the other hand, there was the whole kidnapping plot which if they were smart, they could really milk as proof of Trump being a threat to democracy, their favorite talking point. I think she's the high profile dem who would be perceived most favorably next to Trump. Shes also from the Midwest, which has all the key swing states they need to win, including her own. Gavin Newsom, the runner up, has name recognition, but he also has sleazy used car salesman vibes. Kamala would eat shit