Mostly I think going vegan would be difficult significantly degrade my quality of life. I accept that veganism is correct from a moral and environmental standpoint, but I don't feel the moral urgency enough to enact it. My partner is not vegan either, so that's an additional obstacle. Basically, it requires a level of self denial that I can't really bring myself to do. I mostly keep my mouth shut about this because "I love my treats" is not a strong moral principle that others need to hear about, but since you asked
Same. I have a number of other struggles that mentally, take priority. Since money is scarce and I make only a fraction of what i used to, I need to keep food cheap.
That said, just as you, I realize that veganism is the morally correct position, and often find myself beating myself up for not doing it. I enjoy being morally correct.
Don't beat yourself up over it :). You're already better than many others admitting that it is important from an ethical standpoint. There are many others, including some who would call themselves educators or agitators, who don't think it important enough to discuss at all.
I don't think any meats can compete on price when compared to beans and chickpeas. I do think that cow/beef has a lot more possible configurations than beans though. And you can add great vegetable ingredients to beef. You can't add beef to a vegan meal.
That said, I'm open to vegan meals. It is a skill issue in that I am not as well versed in the recipes. What are your top 2? I like Daal and bean burritos.
Idk. I make a different bean chili in the pressure cooker every week with whatever veggies I can get and whatever variety of beans we have on hand (which is usually a lot because I'm fortunate enough to live in a place with an absurd variety of plant agriculture).
We vary the profile of the chili between a few indian-ish seasoning mixtures, this tasty african mixture with a ton of cumin and ras-al hanout, mexican-ish spices, and a few other blends. I use this to make a lot of burritos and tacos. Occasionally we'll mix them into patties but that's a huge chore. When my partner or I feel bored with these, we pick a place on a map and try to learn a recipe or two from there and then mix a chili with that dish's flavors.
Aside from the chili, we've been making a lot of indian recipes:
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this shit is amazing, but it's a rare treat for me:
It's tough when other people you are around present themselves as obstacles, it's actually one of the topics of the little essay I mentioned. I will say that any potential quality of life decrease would come from tensions surrounding people you know. It's also change that challenges existing norms, which I of all people definitely understand is extremely daunting.
Same here, plus it's harder to get protein in. I like to be strong. Per calorie, meat and dairy are generally the highest protein, natural food sources by miles.
Mostly I think going vegan would be difficult significantly degrade my quality of life. I accept that veganism is correct from a moral and environmental standpoint, but I don't feel the moral urgency enough to enact it. My partner is not vegan either, so that's an additional obstacle. Basically, it requires a level of self denial that I can't really bring myself to do. I mostly keep my mouth shut about this because "I love my treats" is not a strong moral principle that others need to hear about, but since you asked
Same. I have a number of other struggles that mentally, take priority. Since money is scarce and I make only a fraction of what i used to, I need to keep food cheap.
That said, just as you, I realize that veganism is the morally correct position, and often find myself beating myself up for not doing it. I enjoy being morally correct.
Don't beat yourself up over it :). You're already better than many others admitting that it is important from an ethical standpoint. There are many others, including some who would call themselves educators or agitators, who don't think it important enough to discuss at all.
Vegan food can be very cheap, but it does get boring pretty quick when it's just chickpeas and beans as the base of everything.
skill issue
There are so many fabaceae that can be prepared in such a variety of ways that this should appear constructively absurd.
Another way to see it: "it does get boring pretty quick when it's just chicken and beef as the base of everything"
I don't think any meats can compete on price when compared to beans and chickpeas. I do think that cow/beef has a lot more possible configurations than beans though. And you can add great vegetable ingredients to beef. You can't add beef to a vegan meal.
That said, I'm open to vegan meals. It is a skill issue in that I am not as well versed in the recipes. What are your top 2? I like Daal and bean burritos.
Idk. I make a different bean chili in the pressure cooker every week with whatever veggies I can get and whatever variety of beans we have on hand (which is usually a lot because I'm fortunate enough to live in a place with an absurd variety of plant agriculture). We vary the profile of the chili between a few indian-ish seasoning mixtures, this tasty african mixture with a ton of cumin and ras-al hanout, mexican-ish spices, and a few other blends. I use this to make a lot of burritos and tacos. Occasionally we'll mix them into patties but that's a huge chore. When my partner or I feel bored with these, we pick a place on a map and try to learn a recipe or two from there and then mix a chili with that dish's flavors.
Aside from the chili, we've been making a lot of indian recipes:
this shit is amazing, but it's a rare treat for me:
It's tough when other people you are around present themselves as obstacles, it's actually one of the topics of the little essay I mentioned. I will say that any potential quality of life decrease would come from tensions surrounding people you know. It's also change that challenges existing norms, which I of all people definitely understand is extremely daunting.
Same here, plus it's harder to get protein in. I like to be strong. Per calorie, meat and dairy are generally the highest protein, natural food sources by miles.
I started taking a vegan pea protein powder for bulking and it provides more protein than I could possibly intake from eating meat.
2 scoops (10 tablespoons) is 80g of protein. It dissolves with water in a mason jar.