Yeah, that's my frustration with that line of logic too. Once again, I've known her for a very long time and know she's a good person and isn't actually a racist, that's the reason why I say white American brainworms. They get pumped with that propaganda day in, day out. All the 'woke' nonsense, all the 'DEI' garbage that's become popular in recent years which having a take like this this directly relates to. It doesn't hurt any less though.
I mean, whats the difference from believing the exact same shit as a racist while denying being racist and actually being a racist if they act the same
I think what they're trying to say is you can think they're a good person and they can genuinely have good intentions and they can genuinely believe that they're not racist, and yet still be racist. You knowing them and being their friend isn't a sufficient argument, it's the flip side of "My best friend is Black!”
I'm not necessarily saying they're a skinhead, Neo-Nazi asshole, but your friend sounds like an actual racist.
Okay. I hear you, comrade. But you missed the entire point. I never said they were a bad person, quite the opposite.
And, yeah, you're right, this isn't reddit. You posted to a Leftist thread of BIPOC and said your friend held some racist ideas that you qualified for them because they're your friend. If I have to explain to you why that might make someone here respond to you as I have, which has been respectful so far, then I don't know what to tell you.
Dude. I honestly don't know what your problem is anymore and you're starting to irritate me. At first I thought maybe I did something but I really don't anymore.
Can you please point to one thing I said that was disrespectful? Someone saying your friend is racist for having racist beliefs isn't an insult, even if they are your closest friend. And how did I not disengage? I didn't respond further to any points other than to say I don't think your friend is a bad person and if you uncritically bring up someone being racist on a Leftist BIPOC thread you shouldn't be shocked that someone tells you that maybe they're racist. By "disengage" did you mean "don't reply" because that's very different and, honestly, I don't take well to that either. Block me if you want but don't tell me when I can and can't reply to a comment when I'm in no way harming or harassing or anything. If I need to shut up then I'll take the order from Othello, who I also checked in with to see if I was in the wrong here but now I don't think I am.
I know they're your closest friend. I respect that and I wasn't trying to start shit with you. I know you said you were feeling down and I thought it might help you to see your friend in that light so you could investigate it further together, addressing the cause rather than the symptom. I think you've totally misunderstood my point and intention from the start, and maybe you're feeling especially vulnerable right now so you're becoming hyper-defensive for your friend and maybe that's part of it, but I'm not your enemy here and I'm not trying to start shit with you.
Yeah, that's my frustration with that line of logic too. Once again, I've known her for a very long time and know she's a good person and isn't actually a racist, that's the reason why I say white American brainworms. They get pumped with that propaganda day in, day out. All the 'woke' nonsense, all the 'DEI' garbage that's become popular in recent years which having a take like this this directly relates to. It doesn't hurt any less though.
I mean, whats the difference from believing the exact same shit as a racist while denying being racist and actually being a racist if they act the same
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What is the difference between "internalized biases" and just bigotry if they choose not to work through them and double down?
Is thinking that poc can be just as capable as whites an "unattainable level of purity" to you?
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I think what they're trying to say is you can think they're a good person and they can genuinely have good intentions and they can genuinely believe that they're not racist, and yet still be racist. You knowing them and being their friend isn't a sufficient argument, it's the flip side of "My best friend is Black!”
I'm not necessarily saying they're a skinhead, Neo-Nazi asshole, but your friend sounds like an actual racist.
Damn you seem to know a lot about his friend, comrade. Maybe you should talk to them
Send me their number, I'll let them know I think they're racist based off a racist position it was stated that they firmly hold.
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Okay. I hear you, comrade. But you missed the entire point. I never said they were a bad person, quite the opposite.
And, yeah, you're right, this isn't reddit. You posted to a Leftist thread of BIPOC and said your friend held some racist ideas that you qualified for them because they're your friend. If I have to explain to you why that might make someone here respond to you as I have, which has been respectful so far, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Dude. I honestly don't know what your problem is anymore and you're starting to irritate me. At first I thought maybe I did something but I really don't anymore.
Can you please point to one thing I said that was disrespectful? Someone saying your friend is racist for having racist beliefs isn't an insult, even if they are your closest friend. And how did I not disengage? I didn't respond further to any points other than to say I don't think your friend is a bad person and if you uncritically bring up someone being racist on a Leftist BIPOC thread you shouldn't be shocked that someone tells you that maybe they're racist. By "disengage" did you mean "don't reply" because that's very different and, honestly, I don't take well to that either. Block me if you want but don't tell me when I can and can't reply to a comment when I'm in no way harming or harassing or anything. If I need to shut up then I'll take the order from Othello, who I also checked in with to see if I was in the wrong here but now I don't think I am.
I know they're your closest friend. I respect that and I wasn't trying to start shit with you. I know you said you were feeling down and I thought it might help you to see your friend in that light so you could investigate it further together, addressing the cause rather than the symptom. I think you've totally misunderstood my point and intention from the start, and maybe you're feeling especially vulnerable right now so you're becoming hyper-defensive for your friend and maybe that's part of it, but I'm not your enemy here and I'm not trying to start shit with you.
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