https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/01/us/politics/us-bases-alert-level-russia.html

https://archive.ph/laVgN

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    Still not as embarrassing as angular-merkel admitting the Minsk agreements were all just to buy time for Ukraine.

    The original narratives about Ukraine no longer matter, the only thing left in the collective consciousness is Ukraine is a democracy therefore the war is about "western values". The good thing is since then even a good part liberals don't care about that anymore, its impossible to manufacture a narrative that Ukraine is winning right now, at best they "resisting" evil Putler and Zelensky does nothing but beg for more aid.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      The Western media's admission of the deceitful nature of their narrative exposed liberals, who mindlessly parrot the same talking points despite the revelations, as nothing more than gullible buffoons.

      • NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        I don't think liberals could have had a worse week. The cracks in their dome are apparent and aren't going away. Some people are checking out, some people are saying "enough" to the constant stream of bullshit right to their faces. /R/politics is a hoot right now.

        But do they change anything about their approach? Of course not.

            • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]M
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              4 months ago

              I mean, for them to stop believing in their ideology, they'd have to find something else to believe in. What would that even be? Most of them are probably innoculated against ideas left of Mussolini due to the constant government programming happening on reddit, so they'd either become anarchobidenists and believe 95% of the same things by saying to themselves "anarchism is when you hate authoritarian governments (read: governments who are resistant to being totally rolled over by American monopolies) and love western democracies. who the fuck is kropotkin? gelderloos? I'm listening to a 3 hour video essay by a breadtuber"

              or, I guess, they'd turn even further conservative and/or libertarian and start frothing at the mouth about the federal reserve and age of consent laws

              • sexywheat [none/use name]
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                4 months ago

                In my observations on Libs, I think the biggest challenge for them is that they fundamentally trust the institutions that govern our society. In order to believe in something else, they would have to break that trust on a fundamental level. But that trust underpins their entire worldview, so in doing so they would not only have to fundamentally alter their core values, but also in doing to have to admit that they have been wrong about everything their entire lives. That's a pretty tall order.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
              hexagon
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              4 months ago

              I'd argue that mainstream libs represent the segment of the population that still hasn't been significantly affected materially. They still have their jobs, they can pay their bills, and there really hasn't been any dramatic change in their lifestyle. They also tend to stay in their bubble avoiding interaction with people who are struggling. This segment of the population is rapidly shrinking though, and we can see them starting to freaking out that their voices are increasingly challenged nowadays. It's a huge shock for them that their narrative can't spread unchallenged.

        • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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          4 months ago

          They're gonna continue to childishly point fingers at everyone else. "All the mistakes I have made and continue to make are because of the chyna-ruzzia-woke-tankie-bots"