and it's a shitty campaign ad of bernie telling people to vote biden and every awful neoliberal account is pushing this. Fuck Bernie Sanders. Society has progressed past the need for Bernie Sanders.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      None of us are going to listen to him so whatever.

      He knows this, too. In the book "We've Got People" there's an anecdote (pre-2016 even, I think) about someone in the Democratic Party asking Bernie to get his supporters in line and his answer was essentially "that's not how this works; these people don't just fall in line behind me whatever I say."

      He's probably 50/50 on seeing Trump as a legitimate threat (which is far from unreasonable) and shilling for Biden to cover the left's ass in future elections (which is probably a better use for him at this point than anything else he could do).

      • RindlessWatermelon [they/them,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        He did the same thing in 2016.

        As someone who represents "the left" to the democrats, it isn't necessarily a bad thing that he plays along.

        This doesn't mean that people should vote Biden, but we can't fault people acting within the electoralist/reformist space for making decisions that support the status quo. That is an inherent part of working within that space, and it is why it is so important to do praxis outside of that space.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          we can’t fault people acting within the electoralist/reformist space for making decisions that support the status quo. That is an inherent part of working within that space

          I'd say this is more precisely stated as "we can't fault people working in the electoral space for the compromises necessary to have any power in that space."