Trump is the Republican Party, there is no distinction.

The vast, vast majority of conservatives love him and will vote for him literally no matter what he says or does.

Owning the libs is enough for them, they don't care how bad their material conditions are as long as they get that. Never Trumpers are so few in number that they might as well not exist.

Meanwhile Biden, offering literally no hope or anything worth a shit to people, will convince very few that didn't vote for Hillary 4 years ago to do so for him this time around. Not enough to win at least.

It's like Chapo said: The choices are screaming defiantly into the void as you die and hurting the people you don't like along the way, or dying quietly reminiscing about "the good ol' days".

If those are the 2 choices, the former is gonna be way more attractive to people.

  • LaBellaLotta [any]
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    4 years ago

    I completely agree and it’s honestly a breathtaking loss to watch unfold because I truly think in these conditions in 2016 Hillary even could have won but people are so disillusioned and the Biden campaign is making all of the same dumbass moves that the Hillary campaign did that I think people really can see that these people are offering them literally fucking nothing. On top of this he can’t even rally support around being the first woman president. And On top of this they seem to be doing everything possible to alienate the black vote. Bernie could have been running away with this shit Rn. You aren’t gonna offer people better healthcare now of all fucking times? The political negligence of the DNC is absolutely fucking criminal and they absolutely must be either completely shattered or brought to heel by the nascent left for any kind of progress towards anything. I try so hard to explain to my family this fundamental truth of the moment but they just can’t see the forest from the trees. It was incredible watching them assimilate the Tara reade story in a really depressing way. And it would be alright to be wrong about all this I guess but honestly I think Trumps gonna take this one just like in 2016 and libs will go directly to blaming everyone but themselves also like 2016. You know, everything the same but somehow worse. Sigh.

      • LaBellaLotta [any]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah that’s a really apt comparison to W. The thing I think that really show how screwed they are Is that despite what everyone else is saying in this thread about Biden’s good odds as of now and how vulnerable trump is; the lead is still much thinner than it could be and is only a few variables off of a loss! Hillary honestly probably would have won 2016 before the comey memo IMO and I personally got the exact same Ominous sinking feeling I did when I saw that news in October of 2016 When I saw the news of the death of RBG. It’s obviously not as directly damaging but that’s only to the extent that Biden can leverage It to his benefit and he just can’t seem to do that for anything. Like I said it would be pretty cool to be wrong but I will not be the least bit surprised if they just eat shit in November.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        4 years ago

        or some of the other incidents where he has admitted he supports fragging

        It would actually be really cool if he supported fragging. Sadly, all he supports is fracking

    • constantly_dabbing [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      You aren’t gonna offer people better healthcare now of all fucking times

      Neoliberal healthcare is not an "offer" it's enslaving serfs to their neofeudal corporate bosses.