Goddamn dude, Bernie's fall from grace is actually tragic if you think about it... remember when he used to mobilize a lot of young people, full of this beautiful positive energy? It was really touching, this hopeful feeling that maybe things could be okay after all.
I mean, I obviously wasn't there in the US, far from it, but he actually made me feel like I wanted to have a positive, hopeful figure like him that I could count on here in my country as well.
Remember that video when he was giving a speech and a bird landed on his lectern? That's the kind of thing that would be too over the top cute and inspiring if you saw it in a movie, but it fucking happened in real life. You could see how happy the crowd was, truly a moment that happens only once in a lifetime, and it all just slipped away.
God, liberal democracy is such a fucking meat grinder.
It didn't just slip away, it was taken, because the capitalist class is too desperate and short-sighted to save their position with another dose of social democracy like they did with FDR.
They weren't short sighted; the capitalist class prefers fascism over even a slight hint of socialism.
Fascism shifts the blame of economic issues onto minorities from the owner class, whereas even something as moderate as mild social democracy still critiques the owner class.
That actually is short sighted though. The empire is dying. Bernie and those kind of policies represented a way to gently wind down and create a soft landing for the decline.
You're exactly correct about why they rejected though! They refuse to allow any concessions, or admit that its over
Yeah but if their biggest fear is UN soldiers occupying the US and FEMA camps and all that, they should stay away from fash shit. Because that's where fash shit ends
Bernie, along with Kyle Kulinski are who got me into socialism to begin with (or rather, started me down the line. Richard Wolff is actually who got me into post-capitalism idiology).
Pretty cringe to admit this but oh well: I started reading Marx specifically because I wanted to learn more about what socialism was, without hearing it from a biased source. I wanted to hear it from the man himself. And although I considered it for a time before Bernie, I think his unashamed self-description as a socialist pushed me to actually read.
I was a "Bernie killed Rosa" type in 2016, but around 2020 I do admit I did feel an inkling of something. It did feel like an energy was possibly coalescing, finally becoming something coherent out of the confused masses.
But I'm still coasting on that. Try to think about just how rough it was to be a self-identified leftist in 2003. When there truly was nothing. All we had then was the band RATM and chat rooms full of 80 year old Trots.
A lack of a plan and a shift to electoralism killed 2020, but covid didn't really help either. A broader movement failed to materialize from the George Floyd protests.
There was some success however. No one wants to be a cop anymore, so their numbers cropped
Goddamn dude, Bernie's fall from grace is actually tragic if you think about it... remember when he used to mobilize a lot of young people, full of this beautiful positive energy? It was really touching, this hopeful feeling that maybe things could be okay after all.
I mean, I obviously wasn't there in the US, far from it, but he actually made me feel like I wanted to have a positive, hopeful figure like him that I could count on here in my country as well.
Remember that video when he was giving a speech and a bird landed on his lectern? That's the kind of thing that would be too over the top cute and inspiring if you saw it in a movie, but it fucking happened in real life. You could see how happy the crowd was, truly a moment that happens only once in a lifetime, and it all just slipped away.
God, liberal democracy is such a fucking meat grinder.
It didn't just slip away, it was taken, because the capitalist class is too desperate and short-sighted to save their position with another dose of social democracy like they did with FDR.
They weren't short sighted; the capitalist class prefers fascism over even a slight hint of socialism.
Fascism shifts the blame of economic issues onto minorities from the owner class, whereas even something as moderate as mild social democracy still critiques the owner class.
That actually is short sighted though. The empire is dying. Bernie and those kind of policies represented a way to gently wind down and create a soft landing for the decline.
You're exactly correct about why they rejected though! They refuse to allow any concessions, or admit that its over
Yeah but if their biggest fear is UN soldiers occupying the US and FEMA camps and all that, they should stay away from fash shit. Because that's where fash shit ends
I was already pretty deep down the leftist pipeline, but I'd lie if I said Bernie didn't influence me
For a second I believed in electoralism and thought that there was a nonviolent option left
Bernie was the compromise candidate. Now he's just compromised.
Bernie, along with Kyle Kulinski are who got me into socialism to begin with (or rather, started me down the line. Richard Wolff is actually who got me into post-capitalism idiology).
Pretty cringe to admit this but oh well: I started reading Marx specifically because I wanted to learn more about what socialism was, without hearing it from a biased source. I wanted to hear it from the man himself. And although I considered it for a time before Bernie, I think his unashamed self-description as a socialist pushed me to actually read.
return my $27 old man
and my $4k+
I was a "Bernie killed Rosa" type in 2016, but around 2020 I do admit I did feel an inkling of something. It did feel like an energy was possibly coalescing, finally becoming something coherent out of the confused masses.
But I'm still coasting on that. Try to think about just how rough it was to be a self-identified leftist in 2003. When there truly was nothing. All we had then was the band RATM and chat rooms full of 80 year old Trots.
way back when being a leftist meant listening to Radiohead because you could tell they also thought something was wrong
Covid snuffed out a lot of energy in 2020 tbh
A lack of a plan and a shift to electoralism killed 2020, but covid didn't really help either. A broader movement failed to materialize from the George Floyd protests.
There was some success however. No one wants to be a cop anymore, so their numbers cropped
did that bird support bombing yugoslavia?