I really don't think that dismissing electoralism means we reject that history is in constant motion. We just think that to actually affect change we need to start outside of the electoral system, and the left is too small at the moment to make waves regardless of the strategy we pick.
Yeah like even if the long-term project is, in whole or in part, to affect electoral politics, the organizational apparatus would have to start with more local level positions and roll up. There’s a symbolic importance in what the Greens, PSL, and West are doing with their campaigns, but the idea of president first, mass people’s movement second is putting the cart before the horse.
Right, not to mention that national politics has absolutely no returns for anyone until we can credibly nominate candidates that stand a chance to be elected. Before then, people won't vote for a candidate that doesn't stand a chance, so we'd be wasting our effort and we literally wouldn't even know how many people we're attracting because of strategic voting, so using elections as a measuring stick as Lenin said wouldn't be feasible either.
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I really don't think that dismissing electoralism means we reject that history is in constant motion. We just think that to actually affect change we need to start outside of the electoral system, and the left is too small at the moment to make waves regardless of the strategy we pick.
Yeah like even if the long-term project is, in whole or in part, to affect electoral politics, the organizational apparatus would have to start with more local level positions and roll up. There’s a symbolic importance in what the Greens, PSL, and West are doing with their campaigns, but the idea of president first, mass people’s movement second is putting the cart before the horse.
Right, not to mention that national politics has absolutely no returns for anyone until we can credibly nominate candidates that stand a chance to be elected. Before then, people won't vote for a candidate that doesn't stand a chance, so we'd be wasting our effort and we literally wouldn't even know how many people we're attracting because of strategic voting, so using elections as a measuring stick as Lenin said wouldn't be feasible either.