• corvi@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Gonna go on Countdown with the line “Dictionaries aren’t rule books, they’re record books” and fight Susie Dent.

  • 7bicycles [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    You know what my biggest problem with descriptivists precriptivists is? What is "correct" always coincides exactly to what they learned in school or university from 15 - 20. It's never anything else. Never in like 20.000 years of human history did we nail language except for that timeframe, and never will it happen again. what a coinkidink.

    • Firestorm Druid@lemmy.zip
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      4 months ago

      Prescriptivists you mean. Descriptivists describe language phenomena as they are without passing judgment on their validity whereas prescriptivists have certain assumptions on what constitutes parts of the language to be valid and prescribe meaning to them

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        there's a joke here about me rejecting the notion of what prescriptivist and descriptivist mean

        but yes, thanks, got some wires crossed there

        • Firestorm Druid@lemmy.zip
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          4 months ago

          My comment was more so meant to prove to myself that I didn't mix anything up and still remember the definitions lol

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        I'd respect that a lot more on the basis of you have to have argued yourself into that one in some way that isn't being subservient to your elementary school teachers authority at 45

  • sgtlion [any]
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    4 months ago

    Descriptivists will never haltodulate the hatsrglabatude of us prescriptivists.

  • Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    I dig the variety of topics on this comm, and I super appreciate how it doesn't get STEMlordy at all.

  • Lojcs@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Except if you're talking about Turkish, TDK dictates what words are real, how they're written, what they mean and other grammar and writing rules.

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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      4 months ago

      Several languages have this. Spanish has the Real Academia Española (RAE) and French has something similar.

      But they're not generally in much of a different position than a dictionary is. If the people start using the language in new ways they have little recourse other than to accept it and amend their rules. If they refuse they'll look antiquated and people start to question their influence.

      They certainly do have influence of course, but the ultimate authority is the people who speak the language in the end.

      • Lojcs@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        Someone links to the TDK website to prove you wrong :p

        It's most relevant to most people in university entrance exams where they ask you edge cases sometimes, but otherwise just annoying that it exists

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      I think the French have something similar, but that's the state imposing hard lines on fluid cultural stuff

  • letsgo@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Great post. Fnrb wijjk blerb phtooie wagawaga nkkjqqz frup walawala madooie.

    Edit: What do you mean you haven't got a clue what I'm talking about?