https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-soldiers-rely-phones-to-fight-ukraine-risks-killing-them-2024-7

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    5 months ago

    i distinctly remember articles about scrappy Ukrainians using civilian phones for things as essential as artillery targeting

    • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      I was gonna say wasn't this exact same story coming out about the Ukranian military earlier in the war? About how it was getting them exploded before they were supposed to stop using personal phones? Oh but now it's the genius tactics of the Ukranians to exploit the stupidity of the RuZZians, I see I see.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Yeah, I believe it was about some Howitzers that were delivered without targeting systems because NATO were worried they'd get captured by the Russians, so the Ukrainian fire teams had to manually calculate trajectories on their phones.

      I'm also reminded of what might be the dumbest thing to ever happen in any modern conflict, when a Ukrainian training camp for foreign volunteers got blown the fuck up because one of said volunteers literally posted the camps position on reddit-logo

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    I will grant them that Russian soldiers are probably using their personal phones and that this probably poses some kind of security risk. Now, is this a Russian problem or something that also affects every other military in the world?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I really wonder if the benefits of every single soldier having a two way radio, camera, wikipedia, and gps all in one cheap plastic brick outweigh the risk of getting popped by e-war.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Phones really should be banned from soldier kits tbh. They shouldn't deploy with them.

  • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    I know when I have a very real intelligence breakthrough like this I make sure to do a press release so my enemy knows they have to fix that particular weakness.

    • WayeeCool [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Funniest shit is they have been using grey market SIM cards from Ukrainian cell providers when within their coverage zones. There are plenty of Ukrainians willing to make some extra money creating accounts and selling said sim cards. The Russian military has even been using Ukrainian cell providers as the fallback data link for their drones once they cross the border. If Ukraine uses electronic warfare to jam Russian military radio frequencies, equipment just falls back to the Ukrainian cell network. Ukraine can't do much about it without shutting down their own cellular network and doing so would be a morale/humanitarian disaster.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Really, the solution to this oughr to be building secure military phones that can only run whatsapp, tinder, and snake.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      5 months ago

      soldiers should under no circumstances have access to civilian dating apps. even when they're on leave tbh

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Still not as funny as idf-cool losers using tiktok for battlefield comms.

  • Feinsteins_Ghost [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Russians working overtime. Posting bullets with their guns and memes with their hearts and phones.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    Lol I wonder what they’re gonna reframe next.

    “Russia using cheap consumer drones against Ukraine!”