cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/163248

I don't usually use forums or Hexbear, I usually just post comments in MAGA streamer discords like Infrared or MWM, but they didn't seem appropriate places to post my story. So here goes, I just wanted to share this with all of you.

Nov 3 I flew to colorado for a great American road trip type tour. Not a guide or packaged deal, just going around by myself. I paid for half of the trip with the wages I earned over the last two years, my dad paid for the other half. I am 19, I guess that is normal starting college and all. (Before that I worked for my dad's company part time, so I guess you could say he paid for all of it, lol).

I did Wyoming and Nebraska, then south Dakota through Minnesota and then Wisconsin next. I am a MAGAcommunist American Communist Party pre-member so I wanted to see patriots in these places. Yes, I know they are different kinds of "patriots" and not really full patriots like us. I went to an patriotic book store in Wyoming and it had a lot of American iconography, but no Heidegger or LaRouche. Like I said, I expected that, not a surprise.

I went to Wisconsin, which everyone knows is famous for its  patriotism, its cheese and everything going on right now. Here I found directions for a local patriotic bar. I went and didn't see anybody, but it was covered in graffiti, mostly about yoopers so I couldn't read it. Whatever, I started taking pictures. Then some people came out and confronted me.

This should have been my first warning sign something was not right, because photography is not a crime. They were not violent, but they were not friendly, like asking who I was, what I wanted. They all spoke good English actually. Not uncommon in Wisconsin. I said I was a tourist and an patriot and I just wanted to take pictures. Then they got friendly and told me I should have asked first (but pictures are no NAP violation so I don't know why, but I didn't say anything) and they invited me inside.

We hung out for a while and smoked hash (there is no good dank in the midwest as you might find out like in Cali, everyone smokes hash with tobacco which isn't as cool as it sounds). We started talking about politics and patriotism. I was trying to talk about America, they were like yeah no doubt America is the best. But they wanted to talk about capitalism, capitalism this and that. This is when we started to get into a debate.

I told them that what they called MAGA patriotism is different from MAGAcommunism. They said patriotism is loving america. And I said I agreed. That is what I am saying. Real patriotism is socialist. And they said yes, that is what we are trying to get rid of. And I said no, but we don't even have that right now. We need more socialism. And everyone at the same time was like "nooo" we are patriots, we are against socialism. Patriots oppose socialism.

And I said but not MAGAcommunists. MAGAcommunists are the patriots who support socialism. I had a fanny pack (yeah, lame I know) for my camera and in that I had this red, white and blue bowtie (also super lame, it was a joke but I wasnt wearing it). And I said look, these are the Anerican colors, red white and blue, like versus the communist red and black. Well, these guys had a lot of red , white and blue in the building already so I thought they would get it.

I think that is when it started to get a really bad vibe, really tense in the air. The patriotism vs socialism thing was funny, we disagreed but I think they thought I was just confused. Everyone was uncomfortable now. Then someone said socialism wont work with democracy. And I said exactly, that's it, democracy is against patriotism. And they kind of agreed, and said yes, we don't have real democracy, just governments, and we needed more democracy. I said no, we need less democracy, democracy is the enemy. And we need to end democracy to have america. Then they were all like "noooo" again. You know that thing people do in groups when everyone all says "nooo" or expresses some disapproval at the same time.

And one of them said "but we do want to stop the government" and then they kind of spoke back and forth. I didn't really understand it. And they asked me what I meant.

So I said okay, I had the floor, I was going to tell them about MAGAcommunism. And I tried to explain to them some Eddie and Haz. I said the natural order in america is that the best rise to the top, the market picks who is the best. They compete and are peaceful. They said what do we want instead of america. I said we want workers to control their own land and businesses. They said that is what we have now. I said no, it would be even better. One of the guys said it was like Authoritarianism. And I said it is not Authoritarianism.

Eventually one of the guys spoke up and I thought he was German, but he spoke English perfectly so he may have not been. He said he knew what MAGAcommunism was and that we were basically fascists. He asked me if I thought everything should be collectively owned. And I said yes. And he asked me if I thought people were equal. And I told him yes. And that everyone would have equal rights. I said everyone has the right to live in america and not be done aggression against. But that everyone had to be treated equally without owners. He said what about immigrants and antifa. And I said that would not happen in MAGAcommunism, but yes property owners could immigrate here if they wanted to. They had to respect america.

Then he called me a fascist again, and someone else said I was a antifa. And then they basically all started shouting libtard at me, and one of them grabbed me by the wrists. They pulled me out the door, it was up three floors, and basically drug me down the stairs on my back. It hurt really bad and I remember yelling "you're hurting a fellow patriot" and things like that. "I love America with all my heart" Then they kicked me around on the ground in the hallway, before they took my camera and threw me outside. I was crying and stuff, I just sat there. I was in shock because it was so sudden. Looking back there were warning signs though.

I think they felt bad for me and gave the camera back, but when I looked later they stole the memory card with all of my waspconsin photos.

So they initiated force and theft. They broke the NAP. I knew the nationalists were not real patriots, but I never knew they would do something that bad.

I wasnt seriously hurt, just kicked around a little, lots of bruises and little cuts. I am fine guys so don't worry. Just needed to share.

  • Misanthrope@lemmy.ml
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    4 个月前

    Is this a re-telling of that infamous reddit post?

    Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/