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If you’re waiting to see you already know the answer. They are going to be even more concerned and will have more behind closed doors “serious” talks about how Israel is acting but they won’t do shit. If there was the slightest inkling of a chance of anything different you wouldn’t be able to avoid hearing about it.

Kamala has been on board since day one and Walz cancelled a meeting with Gazan families after learning that they had actual demands instead of just being a good photo op. Israel will still get support, AIPAC want politicians to be openly enthusiastic about it too.

despite the genocide

Very stupid take. It’s not a better environment, leftism exploded under Trump and has stagnated and died under Biden until he began the genocide last October. You yourself have argued Biden and the democrat neocons understand empire better than their opposition and are more ruthless and efficient at reinforcing that empire. Can’t believe you said something so chauvinist and short-sighted, is this a bit?

I still want the American left to be able to organize than to suffer from Trumpian fascist violenc

Don't fall for the liberal myth that organizing under a Democrat is any better than Trump. Democrat controlled states and cities are more than happy to enact violence against their political enemies, which includes anyone against genocide. The Democrats just make it easier for the average American to ignore, because they hide their fascist violence behind masks of civility and playing up the optics of relatively minuscule crumbs of concessions.

Please say sike

Although, i feel like youre joking?

I'm going to give you a bit more grace here, given that I generally know where you stand on other stuff.

I would encourage you consider the extent to which the Dems are not better than the GOP for leftist organizing, as much as that they are different in how they affect leftist organizing, while both having the same end goal. Democrats and Republicans are the carrot and the stick of American capital. The former seeks to lull the proletariat into complacency through the use of social democratic programs, which makes the literal act of organizing/building organizations easier, but makes radicalization harder. The latter seeks to beat the proletariat into submission, which makes radicalization easier and organizing harder.

The presidency of Joe Biden did make improvements in labor rights that made it easier for union organizing and such. It also deflated the closest thing you could call to "revolutionary fervor" in the US and let Americans "go back to brunch". Organizing was in a number of ways harder during the Trump presidency, but the 2015-2020 arguably radicalized more Americans than any point in the 50 years prior (there is strong argument for 2008, as well).

However, as the left increases in power, the gap between the carrot and the stick decreases in kind. Social programs become more stratified to benefit the capitalist supporters and the stick becomes bigger and more easily swung against the communist. Both sides take different paths to the same place. That's changes how we have to think and act about the current conditions, but I don't know if one can truly be called better than the other.

I would also encourage you consider the extent to which the America left and our ability to organize is even something that should be considered. There is a strong argument to be made that communism will have to become ascendant in spite of the American left. That's somewhat confusing and contradictory to think about, especially as an American leftist who would like to grow left and take power in the US, but you should still try to be cognizant of that.

incredible post

When Kamala wins, most of the Western Left is going to go to brunch.

Speaking as someone in the American Left, as unserious as most of us are, people will not become more radical and it will not become easier to organize if the Dema get in. The Dems are essentially opposed to progressive causes and only caucus with them in order to win elections. It is in their best interest to limit progressive demands and movements because it is outside their traditional power base. As such, they will just straight up lie to you, and most progressives are not cynical enough to see through that bullshit, so it de-radicalizes the activists, because they think things 'are being done'.

Then when Democrats show their hands and actually do the bad shit they always wanted to do, you have tied your boat to their anchor and get dragged with them.

Lol

False. Worse is better. Miserable take thank fuck you can't vote lol

EDIT: I wrote this comment while still high on the coconut pill so I wasn’t thinking straight. Still I’m not deleting this comment so you get to read this stupid post.

I really respect this tbh. Props, shipwreck.

Yes, and if she continues Bidens policies then the US will help the world reach net zero carbon emissions sooner. It's not just the fact that there have been massive subsidies for the coming green energy revolution but also wielding the USAs financial power as a weapon should have its advantages for the environment.

Various eco-neoliberal policies would be enacted to discipline foreign countries so that their economies can be kept smaller (and possibly even shrink) and this will minimize their production and consumption. This means their greenhouse gas emissions would be kept low until they can buy American made green energy after using a trivial amount of fossil fuels from places like Texas and Alaska in the mean time. We won't need ecofascists to destroy foreign countries for the environment if we have these forward thinking policies to guide us.

(How do you do stuff like this so often? This is very hard.)