I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    The trick is that they're all built on the same tech iteratively, so production load gets eased by the inhouse tools =) but it is still a lot of work to make a trash game...

    Do people actually travel the roads organically in Skyrim? Dunno if I ever saw one, just random highway bandit encounters maybe. I love the Living Desert mod for NV so I dig that stuff.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        waow-based something actually cool in a post 2010 bethesda game...

          • magi [null/void]
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            1 month ago

            Obsidian are nowhere near the same company that put out new vegas.

            Avowed got delayed to Feb 2025, it also looked poor the last time I viewed a trailer

            • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 month ago

              Josh Sawyer is still making cool games. A lot of the other people who worked on FONV are retired or working somewhere else at this point.

              Edit:

              Still making cool games.

              I mostly mean Pentiment lol

              • magi [null/void]
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                1 month ago

                I'm not a Josh fan, the main writer left to write Horizon Zero Dawn after being forced out of Obsidian, Avelone well he's freelance still iirc.

                Obsidian haven't really done anything great in a while and they lack good writing. It's also not a great place to work under as far as i've heard. I don't expect them to do much better after Pillars 2 was disappointing and a lot of their games under performing.

                Avowed looks like a skyrim clone and I am not a skyrim fan

                • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 month ago

                  It's also not a great place to work under as far as i've heard.

                  This doesn't surprise me at all

                  Avowed looks like a skyrim clone and I am not a skyrim fan

                  I'm pretty sure it's not even going to be a good Skyrim clone at this rate lol

                  • magi [null/void]
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                    1 month ago

                    It's going to be a cut down Skyrim, not sure if it's open world. The last reveal trailer looked like it's going to be poor, barely showed off dialog either and that's a bad sign when they crow on about choice and consequence in the marketing spiel.

                    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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                      1 month ago

                      I'm thinking Fallout 4:Starfield::The Outer Worlds:Avowed if that makes sense (not that I've played Starfield though, lol)

        • magi [null/void]
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          1 month ago

          Outcasts and traders do in 3. There are a few other roaming npc squads