im at 15hours and starting to get a smidge of racing thoughts and excesss sweeting
I was about at 9gs a day, it takes about 24 hours IMO. If you need a chat buddy though withdrawal, my DMs are totally open
Does cessation of kratom use have significant withdrawal symptoms? I used white kratom for a while, 10 years ago. I just stopped one day, I'd been mixing it with water and downing it and I just got tired of it. I wasn't using it for any purpose, just curious.
Depends. im using close to 20 grams a day so yes for me.
10 grams and under would probably super mild or no withdrawal.
kratom withdrawal is basically diet opiate withdrawal though if youre using large amounts, which i am.
i take it because it keeps me from thinking about street opiates as much
Ehhhh thats not quite that much when spread out. I wouldn't sweat it. Once you get through about the 36 hour mark, you should be doing better.
Oh now im not going to quit taking it. i need it to stay off Heroin since i was cut off my subs by an asshole of a nurse.
i was just wondering how long i can stall my doses out before going into withdrawal.
like if in going stay on this stuff id like to get down to like 7-9gs once a day
i ask because most people take 5-7gs once a day
Oh word. First of all good luck! I've quit opiates, benzos, and booze so if you ever need an ear just holler!
As to the question at hand, unfortunately, I think that's something you're just gonna have to figure out on your own. While there MIGHT be general guidelines out there, everyone's body is different and all that good stuff.
I'm genuinely not sure what the dose I was taking was but any more than that makes me nauseous, it's like a large mounded table spoon twice a day for most of a year and have never experienced any withdrawals, but I never got physically addicted to cigarettes after smoking for years either so take that with a grain of salt I suppose.
For me, withdrawal started sometime under 24 hours. I'm not sure on the exact timeline though, I probably should've been taking better notes.
I see you're using Kratom to keep off Heroin. Good job! Getting off of opioids is tough, and it's where my experience with Kratom lies (though hopefully you'll have more success than me).
If the short time to the start of withdrawal ends up too much of an issue, if it's possible, you could try getting methadone or suboxone. They should be longer acting.
if kratom ever stops keeping the using thoughts out of my head. You can beat your ass ill be finding a new sub dr.
Right now kratom keeps the thoughts at bay so ill sick with it
It seems to depend on the person, some people quit without feeling anything (or claim to). I don't take very much (9g a day max) and don't take it regularly, so I've avoided becoming too dependent I think, but if I take it a few days in a row and stop, i feel a little rougher than usual for about a day or two. Sometimes it feels like I have a cold coming on the day after, and I get more tired than usual for one or two days. If I stop at night, I can feel it the next day by the afternoon, so that's about the window of time you are at.
I can feel withdrawal in about 12 hours, but it's pretty mild until 24 and peaks at 48-56.
It depends a bit on your dose and dosing frequency. And of course varies between people. But if you're already sweating, the withdrawal is probably already setting in.
For me, about 15 hours sounds about right, that's about when I started getting antsy and skin beginning to crawl, at least when I would stop after heavy use. But that was like 50g spread out over 3 or 4 times a day and I see you're at <20g per day in 2 doses. If you're like most people, you should know by the 24 hour mark.
You're not quitting though? Is this your first time with kratom withdrawal? It's not something to scoff at, it can really suck, but I see you're also familiar with other opiates. You're right that the withdrawal shouldn't be near as bad as heroin and definitely not as bad as subs withdrawal but it's still no walk in the park.
I'm also curious though, if you don't mind sharing, you switched over from suboxone to kratom when they cut you off the former? (Which is fucking e criminal by the way. Evil fuckin bastards to that.) How was that? How long were you in withdrawal from subs when you got on kratom?
Ive been through kratom withdrawal before. Been doing this opiate thing a long time. i just was never sure when the withdrawals truly set in.
I feel like it is probably about 15 hours when ill start getting mild symptoms though
How was sub withdrawal? Not nearly as intense as Heroin or Fent withdrawal. It was just longer with more sweating. A step up from kratom withdrawal as far as intensity of symptoms. The bad part was how long it was.
At least 3 weeks for that bullshit to be 90% gone.
yeah this nurse was a woman i dont want to call her a bitch, but she was... and a rude rude piece of shit. She asked me a bunch of shit thats not her business and then basically told me to suck it up grab a blanket and check into detox.
that shit is patient abandonment as far as im concerned
