but the poverty line in China is much less livable than the poverty line in America
The poverty lines are calculated using the same formulas to determine livability for each country. Everybody should theoretically have a somewhat similar standard of living at the poverty line across countries
The poverty line for USA is a 14500 salary. 80% of Americans live in a city. How many cities in USA exist where you can live well on a 14500 salary? Not to mention a single healthcare incident will instantly wipe out whatever scraps you can save off a 14500 salary
People who make 2.3USD a day in China live in a place where it is possible to live on that cheap salary
Not to mention similar homelessness rates to America
Can you link a source? The most recent data I found dates back to 2011
Purchasing power parity of China is 4.022. So let's look at the overall poverty line of $2.30 in China. That would be equalivent to $9.25 a day in America, or $3,376 a year.
China makes their poverty rates appear so low by making their poverty line absolutely ridiculous and actually much lower than comparable countries.
Of course I couldn't any PPP rates for just rural China (although it's pretty obvious $3,376 isn't going to suddenly becoming $30,000 because it's rural), but see this:
Our results indicate that the mean subjective poverty line of the rural households is 8297 yuan per capita, which is far higher than the national poverty line (2800 yuan). Statistically, 29% of the surveyed rural households who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor.
29% of people who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor?
I said that amount is livable in China. That study is about people's feelings. Hardly related
Not to mention I work in Silicon Valley as a software engineer and it's literally common for people here to be making 200-400k to complain about being poor and not saving much all the time
How many people living in the Midwest or the south on a 20k salary do you think would feel subjectively poor?
Conveniently ignoring the fact a $3.3k salary isn't livable anywhere in America.
Spoiled middle class westerners complaining about being poor is totally different LMAO. Americans will complain about being poor when living in a decent house in suburb, being poor is seen totally different in 2nd and 3rd world countries that are, yknow, struggling much moreso.
Lol. $845/yr is the number the CCP conveniently made up to make poverty rates seem lower than they actually are. If the poverty line was the same as comparable countries to China, it would be almost double ($5.50 a day instead of $2.30, or adjusted for PPP $8k/yr instead of $3.3k).
Despite the fact that China is classified as an upper-middle income country, China’s official poverty line is only a little higher than the universal global poverty line. Applying the World Bank upper-middle income poverty line of $5.50/day to China would mean almost a quarter of Chinese still live in poverty.
Despite China "still being poor" or whatever, the fact of the matter is that povery line go sharply down so China is becoming more gooder by the year. While in the country whose policies you support, poverty line stay same, not become gooder.
I know, but what outlets does the World Bank get its data from for a given state? And why didn't you link TWB directly instead of going through macrotrends? Answer: You don't know what you're talking about, and you're not paying attention.
I know lol but you still don't get to make that comment when you couldn't even find the data yourself you incompetent fool. Bernie would be very disappointed.
The poverty lines are calculated using the same formulas to determine livability for each country. Everybody should theoretically have a somewhat similar standard of living at the poverty line across countries
The poverty line for USA is a 14500 salary. 80% of Americans live in a city. How many cities in USA exist where you can live well on a 14500 salary? Not to mention a single healthcare incident will instantly wipe out whatever scraps you can save off a 14500 salary
People who make 2.3USD a day in China live in a place where it is possible to live on that cheap salary
Can you link a source? The most recent data I found dates back to 2011
https://data.oecd.org/conversion/purchasing-power-parities-ppp.htm
Purchasing power parity of China is 4.022. So let's look at the overall poverty line of $2.30 in China. That would be equalivent to $9.25 a day in America, or $3,376 a year.
China makes their poverty rates appear so low by making their poverty line absolutely ridiculous and actually much lower than comparable countries.
Of course I couldn't any PPP rates for just rural China (although it's pretty obvious $3,376 isn't going to suddenly becoming $30,000 because it's rural), but see this:
29% of people who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor?
I said that amount is livable in China. That study is about people's feelings. Hardly related
Not to mention I work in Silicon Valley as a software engineer and it's literally common for people here to be making 200-400k to complain about being poor and not saving much all the time
How many people living in the Midwest or the south on a 20k salary do you think would feel subjectively poor?
Conveniently ignoring the fact a $3.3k salary isn't livable anywhere in America.
Spoiled middle class westerners complaining about being poor is totally different LMAO. Americans will complain about being poor when living in a decent house in suburb, being poor is seen totally different in 2nd and 3rd world countries that are, yknow, struggling much moreso.
Well that's why the American poverty line has been calculated to be 14500
14500 is the poverty line in America and 845 is the poverty line in China
PPP isn't a perfect comparison between every single combination of all 200 countries in the entire world
But the poverty line is specifically calculated for every single country
Lol. $845/yr is the number the CCP conveniently made up to make poverty rates seem lower than they actually are. If the poverty line was the same as comparable countries to China, it would be almost double ($5.50 a day instead of $2.30, or adjusted for PPP $8k/yr instead of $3.3k).
Despite the fact that China is classified as an upper-middle income country, China’s official poverty line is only a little higher than the universal global poverty line. Applying the World Bank upper-middle income poverty line of $5.50/day to China would mean almost a quarter of Chinese still live in poverty.
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13% = 25%? (from a very biased source too btw)
Despite China "still being poor" or whatever, the fact of the matter is that povery line go sharply down so China is becoming more gooder by the year. While in the country whose policies you support, poverty line stay same, not become gooder.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CHN/china/poverty-rate
Ok but that's for 2019, the source I listed has info for 2021.
Halved, in two years? Be realistic. Some random ass NPR article?
If we're talking about validity of sources, NPR is a more trustworthy source than a shady investment site. You're not paying attention.
Hm what's this?
I know, but what outlets does the World Bank get its data from for a given state? And why didn't you link TWB directly instead of going through macrotrends? Answer: You don't know what you're talking about, and you're not paying attention.
Cleaner and quicker presentation of data.
Its ok to do bad research by pursuing expediency over credibility, nobody is perfect, just do better next time.
Oh wow a 0.5% difference! Those are the rounded values foolish tankie.
I know lol but you still don't get to make that comment when you couldn't even find the data yourself you incompetent fool. Bernie would be very disappointed.
(Also the same entity that gave such data to TWB has this to say about China lmfao)
Don't care didn't ask. I linked the same data.
I don’t know why anyone is still bothering to reply to this very obvious CIA bot.
L 😂
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