It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"
Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.
It's worth noting that, if we are thinking of the same data, it was IUD insertions, not sterilizations. A woman with an IUD can go to a doctor and have it removed in minutes and be just as capable of reproduction as if she had never had it inserted (barring if there is an accident somewhere along the line). In fact, the devices only last for a finite number of years (how many depends on the model, I think it was once 2 years but is much higher now) and need to be replaced after that interval. It's designed to be a highly reversible process, not at all like male "tube tying", which can sometimes be reversed but is very likely to lead to sterilization.
It was sterilisations - the data below
The graph shows that more sterilisations from 2010-2018 occurred nationally than in Xinjiang (eyeballing it, 725 nationally compared to 575), and 250 sterilisations per 100,000 is not going to be a genocide on any timescale.
My bad, thanks for sharing more details!