• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      Is growing things on golems vegan though?

      Do golems count as alive?

      Do androids dream of electric sheep? Are those sheep vegan?

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        Are those sheep vegan?

        I don't know about vegan but they're certainly crunchy; in the short story (novella?) it's explained that real animals are rare and mechanical simulacra were made for people who want pets. Also the lack of creatures on earth is such that even a spider that shows up in the book is kept as a pet by the guy who found it and it's mentioned that it's illegal to even kill it.

        The main character's goal for the story is to actually acquire a real life (goat? sheep? Can't recall) because his wife is miserable and he think it'll cheer her up; hilariously a replicant he meets whom he spurns is actually so upset she comes back and pushes the thing off the ceiling of the apartment building.

        Also side note, but replicants in the novel are actually quite inhuman and are so incapable of telling truth and lies apart that the male MC literally tells a replicant through a door that he's a woman and it believes him immediately. That deeply thoughtful replicant in the movie bladerunner was actually most deeply curious about how a spider functions after each leg is pulled off; it's not doing it out of malice, it's just incapable of empathy, sympathy or anything human.

        I just realized I rambled on after this one jokey question you made but I think it's probably because I find the author's stories very fascinating and wish he'd written more.

        • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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          4 months ago

          The main character’s goal for the story is to actually acquire a real life (goat? sheep? Can’t recall)

          He talks the entire book about wanting an ostrich. He has a fake sheep, he buys a goat.

  • Inui [comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    You posted in bad posting but I've avoided that show on purpose based on previews I've seen. I feel like every piece of media having to do with food, real like cooking shows or animated, is a carnist fantasy where the characters in the latter go out of their way to eat 'exotic' animals without any social consequences because they're 'monsters' instead of endangered. Yeah, maybe they're wild and dangerous animals, but you're invading their homes to kill them. There's enough of people doing that IRL that I don't need to see an idealized anime version of it and listen to people jerk off over which monsters would taste the best.

    • naom3 [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      Yeah it seems kinda silly but this is actually something that bothers me about the show. Like, you’re building this elaborate ecosystem and coming up with all these creative details about monster biology… just to eat them? So far most of it really is just a cooking show but fictional animals, plus it’s loaded with reenactments of the carnist/hunter “stewards of the land” mythology about how they’re just living off the land and exploring the rugged “frontier” and taking only what they need etc. idk maybe I’m being too harsh on it and I’ve only seen a little bit but so far it’s kinda disappointing

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        I mean it's not the strangest thing ever; world of warcraft predates dungeon meshi and most of the creatures in that game drop meat you can cook and eat as well. Dungeon meshi on the other hand is absolutely a cooking focused show; I almost didn't continue because I have zero interest in shows about cooking; it's literally everything other than the food that I watch it for. The thing I found bizarre though was their willingness to eat creatures that seemed to actually have their own cultures and languages (as Laios first entertains the idea of eating demihumans like goblins for example; this does just basically sound like cannibalism. Is the only reason he wouldn't eat elves be because some of them cooperate with humans?).

        • naom3 [she/her]
          hexagon
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          4 months ago

          Dungeon meshi on the other hand is absolutely a cooking focused show; I almost didn't continue because I have zero interest in shows about cooking; it's literally everything other than the food that I watch it for

          So does it get better? I just finished the episode with the golems and the story is kind of intriguing, the cooking parts get old fast

          • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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            4 months ago

            There's still lots of cooking (sadly), but it does indeed get better; you're gonna get more lore on the dungeon too and its history, and you're gonna get some character history too; also some genuinely funny episodes (and I really don't want to spoil these in the slightest). Cooking nonsense aside, the setting and story are actually very fascinating.