• GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'm gonna be blunt, but we aren't going to win this discourse this time around. I just scream this into the void even among my normie friends. They hate Trump so much they are willing to accept nothing changing as an alternative and that won't change this election. However if Biden does get in and not change anything, we will definitely be able to agitate this line more among normies. To what extent, I don't know, but we have to look beyond the election and prepare for any situation.

    • dayruiner [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      My fear is that they will just go "okay but it was worse under Trump"

      Like if Trump doesn't fuck off forever after this, they could just point to him endlessly as an example of how much worse it could possibly be. Getting people to realize that life legitimately can be better than this is hard. Neoliberalism and eternal austerity and shit only getting worse has programmed people into thinking this is just how it has to be.

      • anonymous_ascendent [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        They can only sleep for so long. The underlying problems and contradictions are still there, still accelerating

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Are you sure? Biden isn't nearly as liked among normies as Obama

        • HeckHound [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          All critique of Biden will be met with “He’s better than Trump! Can you imagine how much worse things would be if Trump was re-elected?”