You can't use a hypothetical action to argue Hillary would have been worse and then completely discount a hypothetical where Trump isn't talked out of war with Iran at the last possible minute.
She was Secretary of State from 2009-2013; our involvement started to escalate in 2014.
I get it, she's not good, but too many leftists are so eager to rip on her that they circle back to ridiculous stuff like "Trump's actually better here."
Escalation began in 2012 when western arms began showing up in rebel hands and Obama extended political and media recognition to them that same year, putting the start of American involvement in 2014 is blatant misinformation
I don't really know what Vietnam has to do with it, but the USA literally started Timber Sycamore in 2012, if you want to insist on a "start" there it is, the fact someone would assert 2014 to be the year the US "started" fucking with Syria is frankly incredible
You bring up another good point: Hillary wasn't even in charge. She should take some responsibility, but laying everything at her feet ignores how the government works.
And you're talking about when involvement began, which is not the same as significant escalation, which is not the same as the full-on invasion Trump risked.
Edit: Clinton resigned as Secretary of State on Feb. 1, 2013; your article is from Dec. 11, 2012. It's absurd to compare whatever she's responsible for in 50 days on her way out the door to damn near starting the largest conflict we've seen since WWII.
No seriously are you from a universe where Trump started a war with Iran, you do remember you're offering a hypothetical about something Trump HASN'T DONE
While I'm pointing out something Clinton has already done and what exactly is your point with Clinton's resignations, the program did in fact start under her tenure, she supported it, those are facts, sorry if they're inconvenient for your weird pro-clinton takes
you’re offering a hypothetical about something Trump HASN’T DONE
You're talking about a hypothetical Clinton presidency and a war she would hypothetically escalate. And for some laughable reason you're insisting on laying the entirety of Syria at her feet because she was at most second in command on the situation for two months early on.
You couldn't even get the date of the US escalation in Syria right lol shut the fuck up, YES THE SECOND MOST POWERFUL person in the state happens to have a lot of agency in regards to the Syrian disaster, imagine arguing otherwise
Clinton lost cause she was trash, get the fuck over it
Did Hillary escalate the Syrian Civil War?
You can't use a hypothetical action to argue Hillary would have been worse and then completely discount a hypothetical where Trump isn't talked out of war with Iran at the last possible minute.
lol yes she did, she was literally Secretary of State, who do you think was funding the "moderate" rebels?
She was Secretary of State from 2009-2013; our involvement started to escalate in 2014.
I get it, she's not good, but too many leftists are so eager to rip on her that they circle back to ridiculous stuff like "Trump's actually better here."
Escalation began in 2012 when western arms began showing up in rebel hands and Obama extended political and media recognition to them that same year, putting the start of American involvement in 2014 is blatant misinformation
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I don't really know what Vietnam has to do with it, but the USA literally started Timber Sycamore in 2012, if you want to insist on a "start" there it is, the fact someone would assert 2014 to be the year the US "started" fucking with Syria is frankly incredible
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oh ok, yeah that's makes sense, I should have caught your meaning but my cat is in my arms purring, so I was a little distracted
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You bring up another good point: Hillary wasn't even in charge. She should take some responsibility, but laying everything at her feet ignores how the government works.
And you're talking about when involvement began, which is not the same as significant escalation, which is not the same as the full-on invasion Trump risked.
Edit: Clinton resigned as Secretary of State on Feb. 1, 2013; your article is from Dec. 11, 2012. It's absurd to compare whatever she's responsible for in 50 days on her way out the door to damn near starting the largest conflict we've seen since WWII.
No seriously are you from a universe where Trump started a war with Iran, you do remember you're offering a hypothetical about something Trump HASN'T DONE
While I'm pointing out something Clinton has already done and what exactly is your point with Clinton's resignations, the program did in fact start under her tenure, she supported it, those are facts, sorry if they're inconvenient for your weird pro-clinton takes
You're talking about a hypothetical Clinton presidency and a war she would hypothetically escalate. And for some laughable reason you're insisting on laying the entirety of Syria at her feet because she was at most second in command on the situation for two months early on.
You struck out hard on this one; sit down, champ.
You couldn't even get the date of the US escalation in Syria right lol shut the fuck up, YES THE SECOND MOST POWERFUL person in the state happens to have a lot of agency in regards to the Syrian disaster, imagine arguing otherwise
Clinton lost cause she was trash, get the fuck over it